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lying in your logs?

ok, time to fess up--- are you someone who forgets little things every now and then, or do hot fudge sundaes never ever make the cut?

Tue. Jul 10, 2:00pm

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I'm sure I have forgotten things, but never intentionally.

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:51 PM

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I'm totally honest - that's why I'm here. I put in the pizza, the pasta, the ice cream and cookies. However, I'm not eating much of the above anymore, so I really don't have to worry about lying about it.

Actually, I have, on occasion, done the opposite. I have one member of one of my groups who insists that 1200 cals/day is too low. She seems nice and all, but she watches my log and privately tells me she's concerned if I don't hit 1200 or over. So I'm going to be totally honest and say right here that there are times I add in something I didn't actually eat to keep people off my back. And jeez - I'm not anorexic! If I wasn't hungry that day, I didn't eat something only so I would hit a specific calorie count. And there are plenty of days I go over it, anyway, so it balances out.

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:56 PM

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what's the point?? what a waste of time it would be to lie on a site like this.

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 3:03 PM

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Well, eating less than 1200 puts your body in "starvation" mode, so you retain more fat rather than burning it. Just by upping your calpries from 1000 to 1200 you can see a significant increase in energy and weight loss. Oftem just eating a piece of fruit or drinking some juice can get you up to 1200, you don't have to be hungry. I always used to think that, the lower the better, but I tried it and proved myself wrong.

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 4:08 PM

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"eating less than 1200 calories..."

anything that follows is a huge generalization and is based on the experiences of a collective mass. it does not ring true for everyone that less than that will throw your system into any particualr mode, including starvation.

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 4:12 PM

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I just don't get it!!! I ate between 1100-1200 calories every week day for 2 years & felt & looked better than ever!!! I would relax on the weekends & eat dinner out w/out counting every calorie. I worked out 5 days a week (cardio 45 min. & weights) & I looked & felt very healthy. FYI, I am 5'7 & was at 125-130. Why does everybody say that 1200 cal. is not enough?

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 4:20 PM

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4:12 -
I agree, but generally speaking, a metabolism does slow down when too little calories are ingested. And you may have to eat less and less so stay at the same weight or keep losing if going the ulltra-low calorie route. I know 3 women who used to be anorexic. They all starved themselves when they were younger. One of them, who was anorexic for over 10 years, now eats a steady diet of about 700 calories per day, and is about 50 pounds overweight. She destroyed her metabolism. The other two are also about 30-60 pounds overweight, even though they are very religious about watching their calorie intakes still. Plus, scientifically speaking, you can't eat so little and still have sifficient nutrients that your body needs in your body. Your hair may fall out and your nails may crack.

And you are right, it does not ring true for everyone - but I would not take the chance of finding out personally - I would rather maintain a diet of over 1200 a day and be fit and full of energy.

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 4:20 PM

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4:20 again!
I'm sorry! I honestly don't mean to hijack...I just keep reading this over & over & I'm finally reacting to it!

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 4:21 PM

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4:20 - I hear ya!! The argument comes up any time someone mentions a 1200 calorie/day regimen. Drives me crazy! It is definitely the lower limit for healthy calorie consumption, but it's not going to keep someone overweight! Just hungry ;)

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 8:25 PM

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Yes, I have lied in my logs. Sometimes I'm just too ashamed to record my all too frequent binges. I'm horrified at how much food I can pack in at once. I hate myself for doing it. I can't afford "real" therapy right now so I keep coming back to PT and hoping today I can enter a "good" day's worth of food and exercise. Someday soon (maybe today?) I'll have the courage to really tell the truth in these logs. I just don't want further shame heaped on me by my fellow loggers... I live a shameful, unhealthy, not-too-secret-since-I-wear-it-on-my-body lie. I'm trying to learn to love myself by telling only the truth to myself, and others.

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 9:11 PM

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- don't be afraid to share. That's what you are here for. If your groupmates make you ashamed for it, find another group. There are plenty of us who mess up, but the point is to keep logging. That way, you can learn. I mean, what's the point of logging at all if you lie?

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 9:47 PM

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9:11, i used to binge, too, but didn't even realize that's what i was doing until i started PT. my first step to mindfulness was to write "ate too much" or something like that in my log. i didn't list the foods specifically, just a note to let myself know that yes, i did eat too much. when i looked back on my logs, it was easier to figure out why i binged than if there was a blank space under "dinner". i started to be able to figure out WHY i was binging (after the fact). then when i realized this frezied eating i was doing was "bingeing" i would start writing "binged on chocolate" in my logs. it took months before i was able to write "25 pieces of chocolate b/c i was mad at co-worker". then i finally got to a place where i recognized that i was "mad at co-worker" before eating! i truly think it was b/c i was logging that i was able to overcome my binges. (it's been almost a year) i urge all bingers/non-posters who are ready to let go of this habit to be honest with yourself in your logs.

Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 7:51 AM

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re: lying in your log

People who lie in their logs shouldn't really even be here or need a lot more help. Unless you're in a competition with a team, you're only doing yourself a diservice by lying.

Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 8:11 AM

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true though, "fudging" it a little or forgetting something always happens, but it just makes more sense to be honest. Otherwise, stop logging.

Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 8:25 AM

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I've omitted items from my logs on occasion. But who is it really cheating? Yourself. I've realized if I want to change habits I need to accept the habits I've established and face them. Now I write everything down.

Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 12:47 PM

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Occasionally i have forgotten some things. When i notice i forget something i usualy kcik myslef because it's usually good stuff, not junk.

I do check everything at the end of the day just to make sure i didn't omit anything. It's not fair to others in my group, but it's definately not fair to be lying to myself. Just because i didn't write it down does not mean i didn't eat it. And if i contemplate whether to "omit" something from my log because i am embarassed or ashamed i ate it, then maybe i shouldn't be eating or shouldn't have eaten it the first place!

Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 1:05 PM

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Sometimes if I fall off the wagon badly I just don't post at all. I am usually very honest though.

Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 2:40 PM

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Never intentional, though I am sure there are changes I made to my eating for the day that I forgot to enter. Telling myself the truth is one of the main elements of success in dealing with my food. The fact that my group can read my log means little, 'cause most of them don't - it is just a way for me to see what I have eaten, and if my losses stall, a way to review trends to see if my choices have gotten sloppy over time.

Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 5:02 PM

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Why lie? These people are all anonymous. They are here to help you. If you aren't being honest with your own log, what's the point? Who are you really trying to decieve? YOU know you ate the hot fudge sundae. Your hips know you ate the hot fudge sundae. It's not worthwhile in my opinion.

Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 8:39 PM

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Sometimes, I feel I'm not being honest enough. Even when I did my best to list everything. Maybe because I feel I ate too much, even though I'm still in my limit for calories.

Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 10:00 PM

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