you want a piece of this??

i thought i'd start a thread where arguing is the point. what other threads are annoying you? why?

the diet pill threads are wicked bothersome to me!! this is a weight loss support site, not a drug-store inventory review panel!! pills are not the answer. how did people lose weight before the new wave of pills came out? no one lost weight successfully?

Wed. Jun 27, 12:44pm

Yea, so, this so-called "new wave of pills" has been out for a while. Alli just came out but diet aides have been around for years and years. Lots of people have lost weight with them, myself included (14 pounds). Not to mention herbal appetite suppresants--

Wednesday, June 27, 2007, 12:54 PM

Diet Pills
I think that they can be useful to some, who need to lose maybe only 10lbs, and are already exercising and dieting and have been fo awhile and are not seeing results. They are not a quick fix miracle for someone who is very overweight, and think they don'y have to change their lifestyles.

As for other problem threads - where do I start
1. Anything that has a religious reference
2. Threads that encourage honesty and then bash people for being honest
3. The I am 15 years old and broke up with boyfriend and now my life is over sniff sniff poor me.
4.Threads that discriminate against people who do not subscribe to the general population' opinion.

Wednesday, June 27, 2007, 1:07 PM

i do not like the leg shaving thread. i do not shave and some people expressed extreme dislike for my personal grooming choice. and went on to comment about how dirty or lazy or messy i must be. i really don't like when people use degrading words or phrases towards another simply because they have different opinions. i often wonder if this is behavior that some people grew up with, so they emulate it? but then i remember that i experienced some pretty nasty exchanges in my home as a child, and i don't act that way.

Wednesday, June 27, 2007, 1:58 PM

Ugh- the "trash bag workout" thread- sure, you'll sweat out an extra pound or two. AND IT COMES BACK AS SOON AS YOU DRINK WATER!

I get so sick of people looking for quick solutions to their lack of self-control. Wanna lose weight? STOP EATING SO MUCH! Get off the sofa and EXERCISE!

"I want to lose 55 pounds in 2 months for my class reunion." Really? well, short of cutting off a leg, it ain't gonna happen. What, did the class reunion just sudennly spring up on you without warning? You couldn't have gotten up off your lazy @$$ 6 months ago?

"is there an all-natural way to lose weight?" Yep. it's called STOP STUFFING YOUR FACE YOU STUPID WALRUS!

Take some personal responsability! It's not your glands, it's not your big bones, it's you not having any self control.

"I can't go to the gym, people will laugh at me!" You narcissistic idiot. No one will look at you at the gym. They're too busy working out or looking at the hotties- if you're fat and don't want to be seen, the gym is the perfect place to go- you might as well be invisible, because no one is going to look at you.

O.K. deeeeeeep breath. rant over. Man, that felt good.

Wednesday, June 27, 2007, 2:12 PM

ha! great thread. real honesty!

Wednesday, June 27, 2007, 9:24 PM

um, no...

well it's an interesting thread, in an observation kind of way... like "look at all the angry people who know a lot of bad words."
but no, don't want a piece, thanks.

Wednesday, June 27, 2007, 9:36 PM

To the 2:12 poster, thanks for making me laugh! I completely agree!

Wednesday, June 27, 2007, 10:33 PM

Just a matter of time before the standard female tight-wad obligatory comment

I can't stand the comments made on threads from people that feel they need to express their "intellect" by commenting on fellow members' grammar, vernacular, punctuation and vocabulary. They completely ignore the thread's purpose and make ridiculous comments about how the text looks or how they don't want to be involved in the thread because they disaprove of the subject matter. If you "don't want a piece" then don't comment in the first place. No one wants to hear from you anyway. I just don't understand why they would partake in the first place. Maybe to get a rise out of others like myself? I think it reveals that uptight, Type-A personality that I just can't stand. It's terrible with all we as women deal with and the standards we hold one another to, the last place I would've ever imagined being insulted is on was this website. I've come to learn that outside my group interactions, the people on this website can definately be cruel and very unforgiving. Nit-picky perfectionist B*&^%$# drive me bananas. Yes. I am being insulting and negative, but this is the only thread I feel comfortable doing it in.

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 1:53 AM

2:12 Perfectly said!!! Thanks for the laugh, I could feel how annoyed you were.

9:36 Apparently you misread what this thread was for, DUH. Just by commenting you did get a piece.

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 2:24 AM

2:12 - LOL the BIG BONES problem always makes me laugh! I had huge bones too until I dropped a ton of weight :)

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 7:02 AM

Big bones bugs you? How about the ones who say "but I have a lot of muscle". Just because it doesn't jiggle doesn't mean it's muscle - it means you're at MAXIMUM DENSITY.

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 7:26 AM

you go, 2:12 !!!!!!! That's what I'm talking about.

I also hate the diet pill threads. They just don;t work, period. Because you can't take them forever, and once you stop, nothing is preventing all the weight from coming back! Plus, the stimilant ones can give you a heart attack - and if you're overweight, you['re already prone to get a heart attack aren't ya?

I also don't like the people who you can tell have been on here for months and have not lost a single pound, and continue to give advice and chat. Obviously, they are only here to complain and feel sorry about themselves.

Oh, and how about those people who are trying to defend their fatness?? Hello, you're here to LOOSE the fat, not to make yourself feel better about it!!!

UGH.

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 10:06 AM

Oh yea, and the not shaving thing is gross. Why are you telling us that? This is Peer Trainer, not Peer Groomer. Keep it to yourself, it has nothing to do with fitness. Period.

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 10:08 AM

Peer Groomer - you may be onto something...

Help!! I have hair above my lip, what do I do??
I can't stop biting my nails. Advice???

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 4:00 PM

My personal favorite is the constant advice to 'make sure you're eating enough.' Is not eating enough really the issue for people who have a lot of weight to lose? How do you explain anorexia?? I agree there's a calorie minimum to be adhered to, but is THIS the most common reason people aren't seeing results?? I look at logs and see that the person has consumed a pint of Ben & Jerry's over the course of a day!! I seriously doubt that lack of calories is the primary issue for most people lacking progress.

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 4:08 PM

2:12 you took the words out of my mouth. I am SICK of excuses and group members who haven't lost a pound and can't figure out why. Um why not try exercise and not eating as much as you do. SO tired of the "nothing works for me" like their body is SO different from anyone else's. Come on, it's not rocket science people. Eat less + exercise = LOSING WEIGHT!!!!!!!!! Wow

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 5:07 PM

I've hit a plateau. I'm at 110 pounds and I'm working out like crazy (45 minutes of cardio before and after work) and I'm only eating 800 calories.

What should I do? I just can't seem to lose the last 20 pounds.

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 7:04 PM

would you shave already!! ;)

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 7:16 PM

Ha - you're at Maximum Density. That's another good one! I love this thread!

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 9:14 PM

Umm... let's see, my most recent favorite is: "I walk on the treadmile for 15 minutes a day and drink lots of water" then for dinner she posted, "one piece of pizza, two 'small' portions of garlic bread and three beers" The following day she can't understand why she hasn't seen a loss because, well, "I am working out everyday" For crying out loud--are people really that ignorant about how to lose weight? Nuts.

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 10:27 PM

wow... there are a lot of misguided people out there. where are you running across these questions/threads? i'm missing all the good ones!

Thursday, June 28, 2007, 10:29 PM

i'm glad all of you negative people found a place to bond with each other.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 10:46 AM

Oh man, and then there's these idiots.

"you can't say that- that's negative!" Yup, sure is. It's also honest. But honest isn't always nice and it's rarely what some self-deluded bozo wants to hear. And heaven forbid you tell someone something they don't want to hear- they might be offended, which is far worse than say, contracting diabetes.

"you know, you attract more flies with honey than with vinegar!" sure, but you can attract even more flies with a dead squirrel.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 11:02 AM

consider the fact that you are on a web site to help people lose weight. i've never been motivated to lose weight by people insulting me. in fact, it works just the opposite--when people insult me, i feel worse about myself. who raised you? cave people?

Friday, June 29, 2007, 11:10 AM

it's "self-deluded bozos" like you who think that being "honest" trumps sensitivity and respect that cracks me up. it's really kind of sad. i shudder to think of the kinds of interpersonal relationships you have. do you have interpersonal relationships?

try to imagine saying to your 4 year old son, "well, son, i guess you'll never be much good at playing ball because you are really too weak and stupid for it."

or how about, "mom--you know, that blue dress really makes your ass look huge."

or to your boss..."well, i'm not going to do it that way because i really think you are an idiot and i'm choosing not to listen to you. oh, i'm fired? oh, well. at least i was honest."

Friday, June 29, 2007, 11:22 AM

here's one:

"wow...you seem like a really great person. you are funny, smart, and you even tolerate my cynical personality and cruel comments to other people. i think i'd like to marry you....oh by the way, do you really need to have that second glass of wine? i've noticed you are really starting to fill out those jeans and I'd hate to see you GAIN weight before the wedding."

Friday, June 29, 2007, 11:33 AM

Yeah, really. Ever hear of manners? Kindness? Living in the real world? You either must be very young and naive or on steroids if you don't have the intelligence to realize when being "honest" and saying whatever comes to your mind is not always the best way to handle yourself in a situation. Grow up.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 11:41 AM

And the PC patrol hijacks another thread...

Friday, June 29, 2007, 11:57 AM

These last few comments are ruining the thread. If you don't like what you are reading, hit the back button and find a new thread. You don't have to stay here.

Personally, I think it helps when people are honest. Maybe I need to hear that I shouldn't have had that pizza, or that my 30 minute workout isn't long enough. Obviously we aren't trying to say it as mean as we are here, but there are nice ways of being honest as well.

This thread is just for laughs...not funny???? Like I said, hit the back button and click on "I'm not fat, I'm just softer than other people."

Friday, June 29, 2007, 11:59 AM

maybe we could all back off?

i think the young part is probably accurate for most. teens and twenty-somethings are naturally narcissistic (sp?) and a little cruel (not everyone, but many). i went through that stage too, so i think it's okay that they're on their OWN thread where they can express all those lovely young thoughts.

i saw a lot of other threads with "honest" comments... they were told to go start their own thread where they could be as mean and vent-y (not in the Starbucks sense) as they like, and they DID. so how about we kinder people, old or young, lurk (if we still want to see the outrageous things they're saying) and leave them alone?

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:00 PM

I was just giving you a piece of this...

geez...don't be so sensitive. are you going to go and cry to peertrainer because i'm ruining your thread? what about having a sense of humor. I thought my comment was actually pretty funny. can't take a joke?

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:03 PM

Yeah, we were just being honest.

If we were being politically correct, we would have just told you you were wrong and tried to shoot down your thread. You can't handle a piece of this?

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:05 PM

When your girlfriend asks "do these pants make my butt look too big?" why is it wrong to say yes? I mean, if you're asking, you must have some suspicions about the @$$-magnifying properties of these pants- and if I say "No, you look great" as I'm supposed to, you go out in a pair of pants that make your butt look too big and has a miserable day because you know, deep down, that these pants are not very flattering.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:20 PM

I'd say it depends on the relationship you have with your girlfriend. You can ask her if she really wants to know or if when she asks you those things if she is just looking for reassurance. Just ask her what she wants and then follow along.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:23 PM

yeah, you have to set the rules ahead of time... when you ask me questions like that, do you want an honest answer? cause if not, DON'T ASK. some people don't like lying, even little white lies.
personally, if my butt looks big in the pants, i usually know it, and if i don't i want someone to TELL ME before i go parading around in them. kind of like when i come home at the end of the day and realize the green stuff i had at breakfast is stuck in my teeth and NO ONE TOLD ME! i tell people about the green stuff, too. even strangers.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:29 PM

11:59...i was just trying to help by pointing out your flawed logic. don't be offended so easily and rush to trying to kick me out of your little club.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:36 PM

you know, like the flawed logic people have when saying they are big boned rather than fat. i'm just being honest.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:39 PM

This Thread Is Awesome

I have "stated" my opinion on threads, and been flayed because of it. I can bitch to my hearts content

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:40 PM

12:36 - I wouldn't want to kick you out of the club, I know your feelings would get hurt and you would take it out on a bag of cheetos.

On another note...if I ask my significant other if a shirt I am wearing makes me look fat BEFORE I leave, I would want honestly. Maybe nice honesty, "I think this other shirt makes flatters you more." But if I just got home from wearing it all day, please tell me I look nice. I think that is the way it works best!

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:43 PM

12:43: I'm actually having a great time with this. I feel pumped.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:45 PM

Yeah, beign an asshole is really fun.

...especially to people who are such big assholes to other people. that's the best. then you feel like you are doing a service to society and you get to walk away feeling like you are better than them. I think I'll go run over a disabled person in the crosswalk and go kick a puppy now.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:51 PM

12:45 - Glad I could be an inspiration.

12:51 - Please don't underestimate the power of kicking a puppy. (That's a joke, don't go call animal patrol).

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:54 PM

We are doing it on this thread because we are nice enough not to be so blunt to the fat person who can't lose weight. I do say it nicely to people but sometimes I just want to tell them to get their s%$& together and lose weight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:56 PM

I'm thinking I'll start with making fun of retarded people instead. This is so empowering and makes me feel so important. Then maybe I'll go down to the Department of Human Services and make fun of the poor people applying for food stamps. I'll round out the afternoon by taunting old people in an Alzheimer's unit of a nursing home. This is only the beginning. This is a new lease on life for me. I think picking on fat people is way to easy. I'm going to leave it for you amateurs.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:57 PM

When the humorless attempt sarcasm, this is the result...

so very sad.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:09 PM

ha...agreed.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:10 PM

Seriously, get off this thread if you don't appreciate it.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:10 PM

I thought this thread was for people ranting about stuff. I guess it's really only ranting about people being weak and in bad time in their lives. You should rename the thread to "Assholes Who Want Their Own Private Thread."

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:15 PM

You could start your own team: "Intolerant Jerks Only: People who are Struggling Need Not Apply."

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:17 PM

if you hate this thread...

and I'M not real fond of some things said here... then go away. i'd rather all the negative energy be contained (more or less) on one like-minded thread than to see it posted all over other threads that have more helpful/supportive intentions. it's designed as a place to argue, be mean, say rude things, etc. if you don't want to see it, why are you reading it at all?

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:19 PM

it's designed as a place to argue, be mean, say rude things, etc.

Am I not following the rules?

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:22 PM

Does anyone work?

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:31 PM

There's one in every crowd, folks.

Yessss... Feel the anger grow within you! Use it to strike me down, Complete your journey to the dark side...

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:32 PM

sort of like going on a thread for people commiserating about rude comments made to them and then trying to tell them they are idiots and overly sensitive? maybe something like that? i dunno...

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:34 PM

or being part of a web site for people trying to lose weight and then making fun of those people?

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:36 PM

Only talking about, "making fun of" those that SAY they are trying to lose weight but not taking the steps to do so... I'm very supportive and encouraging to those that are beginning their journey, not quite there yet, etc. I'm not where I want to be yet either but at least I'm doing what needs to be done and not complaining or whining about it!

Friday, June 29, 2007, 1:59 PM

Y'know, I never say anything mean to the people who ask if they can lose 55 pounds in a month. I never say anything mean to my team mate who eats an entire pizza and then wonders why their weight went up.

I don't say mean things, because I know it's inapropriate, and it wouldn't really help.

BUT... Sometimes, you've just got to rant. NO, you can't lose 55 pounds in a month! Duh, you ate too much and your weight went up! No kidding?!

Do I post these comments? NO. Do I think them? Yes.

So when someone created a page just for ranting about the stuff that bugs you, I thought "great- a chance to blow off some steam!"

It sucks when blowing off steam in a special designated steam-blowing area gets spoiled by big mother, who apparently doesn't understand that we aren't 4 year olds, and we know the difference between the things we WOULD say and the things we WANT to say.

Yes mom, I'll never think bad things about people ever again.

Yes mom, everyone is special and unique.

Yes mom, even hitler had his good qualities.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 2:14 PM

Ok. That's all I needed to hear. Now back to work and don't forget to call your mother this weekend.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 3:23 PM

Well said 2:14

Don't forget ...

Eat your vegetables, or was alli I can't remember

Friday, June 29, 2007, 3:58 PM

thank you, 1:53

my sentiments exactly. ooh, did i miss a punctuation mark?

Friday, June 29, 2007, 5:34 PM

12:57

rock on!

Friday, June 29, 2007, 5:39 PM

hmmm...

I’m not against this form of expression, especially as a disclaimer WAS issued at the onset... however, I have to wonder if we would have the balls to say such things if not for the anonymity.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 5:42 PM

Ha. This thread makes me smile everytime I come back. Where is the Intolerant Jerks Team?!?! Count me in :)

Friday, June 29, 2007, 5:47 PM

5:42 Of course not, there is no way I would say this crap to someone face-to-face. I mean, I don't think so. That's why it's so fun to do it on this stupid thread. No harm, no foul. Kapeesh?

Friday, June 29, 2007, 6:05 PM

Fat people are finicky, they want you to feel bad for them, give them support, validate poor decisions and give them the best PC "safe" adivce on bulls&^% choices they make that help them remain fat dumps. They are exceptionally sensitive and defensive and cry about being fat and not having any options when it comes to living a healthy lifestyle. They always have thyroid problems, slow metabolisms or some other lame arse made-up story that allows them a little lead-way. I am not in my twenties or thirties, I don't have a four year old and I'm my own boss. Basically, I am a "normal" caring,loving wife and friend to a lot of people who, like a lot of people on this website-put up with lame crap from fatties all day long. I reached my goal a while ago, I love to encourage my group to reach theirs, sometimes it's just good to bi^%$ about them every once in a while. Since I'm probably going to get kicked-off Peertrainer for saying all of this, have a ball picking on people. It felt great. phew.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 6:15 PM

6:15 - so true

Lets be realistic it is because fat people are trying to type and stuff french fries in their mouth at the same time that they have to be treated with kid gloves.
I am on the lower end of the BMI for weight, and guess what, I just had a HUGE hamburger, and french fries with a coke for dinner, the first that I have had in 6 months, and you know what, I earned it by working out at the gym for two hours today., and yesterday .... in fact five days / week. Oh what is that I hear ....... yes it is exercise and moderation in eating unhealthy foods with limited frequency that allows me to do it!
That's how normal people handle it.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 7:24 PM

ok I have to put my 2 cents in.. to all the pain in the arse that are having fits about this thread.. this is a thread to let out some steam. a release of sorts like writing, singing, that sort of thing.

with that said.. this is the internet.. you can do two things if this thread is not to your liking.. 1 click back off it. or look up in the right hand corner there is a x. click on that and guess what you will be automatically saved from having to read things you completely disagree with.

so someone started a thread you don't approve of. the simple thing to do is dont click on it. the other thing if you do click on it and find its not your cup of tea. leave and dont start crap for attention..

ok end of the ranting lol

Friday, June 29, 2007, 7:32 PM

What threads annoy me most

The threads where other posters (who are entitled to their opinion) critize and belittle people who are larger than they are.....

Oh wait, that is what this thread has become....

Time to move on.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 7:33 PM

I think that anybody who has worked their AS* off losing weight and dieting and excercising and lost a ton of weight pretty much earns the right to make fun off fatties who can't shake off a pound. I think it is their natural right. They deserve it for hundreds of hours of deprivation, motivation, and effort, if nothing else.

Friday, June 29, 2007, 9:32 PM

9:32-- you are just funny. not sure if you meant to be, but you are. so you're out there in fitandskinnyland, but not satisfied with your own achievement for some reason, and so you find this board and make fun of people. you are just in a whole different universe.
how about you deserve to be an inspiration for people who want to be where you are?

anyway... SORRY, this isn't the place to respond to such thoughts. i know we're supposed to be posting about what makes us angry.

the people who bug me are actually those who hopped on this board b/c they really need all our support to lose 2.3 pounds so they can get back to being a size negative 12, and falsely berate themselves for eating 2 extra shreds of cabbage.

Saturday, June 30, 2007, 12:28 AM

WELL SAID 12:28!!!
I'm sorry but what is this site for.. please remind me again? it's for MOTIVATION.. helping others loose weight while having someone loose weight with you in your own struggle. Not a place for people to come and critisize people for their weight or how they look its to help them get threw loosing weight. I know all that any of you probably have to say to this comment is well if you don't like it don't read it, but excuse me for saying this but, this site was never created for a post to critisize people. This post was actually created to talk about all the post you don't like.. not fat people. So.. I'd really like to know, where did you come from.. were you skinny your entire life? or were you fat once. If you were FAT you have noo dam room to be talking about anyone else being fat because in reality you were there once too just becuase you maybe skinny now, doesnt mean you have the right to talk to about fat people, that's kind of being hypocrytical don't ya thing? Downing something that you once did? And if you weren't ever fat, then what the hell are you doing on this site in the first place!

But what really erks me is when people go on threads that are asking serious questions, and people don't do anything but comment about their grammer or critisize them, like their an idiot. You know in all honesty know one knows where anyone is coming from on this site, no one knows who I am.. for all you know I may have been brought up by a family who never taught me anything about loosing weight and about their body, or I may be someone who's parents told them every single detial even the ones you didn't want to kno about things, and when someone posts something that they don't understand people comment them and say stuff about them being stupid. You don't know if they know the answer to the question their posting or not, so you have no right to say wether or not their arrogant!

ok.. im done w/ my ranting and raving!

Saturday, June 30, 2007, 1:30 AM

If you are like most people, you know how to lose weight and get fit, but simply have a hard time following through. PEERtrainer was built to help you follow through, via daily logging and peer support. It is easy to get started--you log your food, exercise, thoughts each day. This takes about 5 minutes, and is a great habit to develop. You do this in small groups of 4 and larger "teams". The logging makes you much more aware of your habits. The group members read your logs and keep you motivated and supported. This tight integration of logging with online weight loss support groups is very effective. It is also a unique and patent-pending process.

yup thats peertrainer etiquette.. no where does it say anything about saying mean things and rude comments about fat people.. geeze, talk about people not reading things!

Saturday, June 30, 2007, 2:06 AM

Damn for so many of you annoyed and commenting about this thread you sure have wasted enough time reading it. The title says it all. I think whats wrong with society in general today is that nobody says what they really should be saying in fear of being politically correct. I hate this politically correct shit!

Saturday, June 30, 2007, 11:14 AM

Oops, incorrect

Saturday, June 30, 2007, 1:45 PM

Why is everyone getting pissed at the posters who are complaining about THIS thread? The title said to rant about what makes you angry, well this makes them angry. Arent you all being a tad hypocritical? They are here ranting and raving, but because they are complaing about YOU, they shouldnt be here? Nice logic people...

Saturday, June 30, 2007, 8:32 PM

I get annoyed with people who really dont wanna help anyone. Fine, you think all fat people are lazy, keep it to yourself. At least for the most part people are here to try and lose weight and get support. If all you want to do is bash people for being different, go to a bashing website... This is a support website

Saturday, June 30, 2007, 8:35 PM

8:32 poster

Really I mean read the title again.. it says you want a piece of this? no where does it say comment on what makes you angry.. if you meant to say the original posting says that.. read again.. its for THREADS that make you angry.. not THINGS.. so perhaps you should go make your thread to talk about what THINGS make you angry

Saturday, June 30, 2007, 9:35 PM

8:32 - Why are YOU complaining about the people complaining about this thread? YOU are the most hypocritical! This thread is for complaining! Actually now that I think about it, you are right to complain on this thread. I'm complaining too.

Saturday, June 30, 2007, 10:09 PM

I thought the Trash bag work out thread was hysterically funny!

Saturday, June 30, 2007, 10:16 PM

9:35- Fine. This THREAD makes people angry. Do you feel better now? And I never said this thread made me angry, why dont YOU read again. I was talking about the posters who were pissed about this thread. Maybe you need glasses. I find this thread amusing. I love drama, and I also know that if this wasnt anonymous, no way in hell would people behave this way. It is just another way for cowards to be bullies with no chance of consequences.
There I feel better now, carry on, I am enjoying myself.

Sunday, July 1, 2007, 12:51 PM

10:09- You helped me prove my point. Not sure if you meant to, but that is exactly my point. Just because this thread is about other annoying threads, does not make this thread immune.Thanks...

Sunday, July 1, 2007, 12:52 PM

10:09, one more thing. I think you need to get with 9:35 and read my post again. I was not complaining about people complaining about this thread, I was making an observance of all the people complaining about those complaining about this thread. There is a difference. Maybe you missed the nuance.

Sunday, July 1, 2007, 12:59 PM

yikes! i am the OP. my internet has been out since thursday. i love that so many people commented!! what the f**k is up with all of the fat-smash-diet threads?! i saw about 6 threads with "fat smash" in the title. and then i had a royal laugh at the title of a thread called "how can i lose 35 pounds in 2 months?" or something close to that. pulllease!!!! are these actual people with issues (obviously they have some kind of issues), weight related issues? also, the conversations that pop up in the middle of threads bug the heck out of me!!

Monday, July 2, 2007, 9:08 AM

i absolutely go bonkers when i read a comment where the words "me, my, mine" are capitalized. i know this person is so great and really doing fantastic and is some kind of "alpha-female" or "alpha-male" or whatever, but it's so narcissistic and self-indulging. that's how i read it.

Monday, July 2, 2007, 9:11 AM

WHAT LOSERS ON THIS THREAD. GO OUT FOR A RUN OR SOMETHING. IT WILL BE BETTER FOR YOU.

Monday, July 2, 2007, 9:17 AM

1:30 a.m. Saturday Poster

2nd paragraph, third sentence, you used, "their" in the wrong context.

Monday, July 2, 2007, 12:52 PM

I get so sick of the same thread subjects over and over and over again. Fat smash diets, green tea, anything involving how much water to drink...blah blah blah-it all drives me nuts. Just eat less and exercise more, what is so hard about that? Think about it for a second, why is it so f'n hard to wrap your head around the concept? I don't get it. There is no gimmick or b.s. potion or equation that you need to buy or follow-just stop shoving your face with so much food and get off your sofa and work out. I haven't the faintest idea why someone would allow themself to get so fat in the first place. Why? Oh and I don't buy the whole idea about "I had a baby" bit--It's just shear laziness and excuses. I've had 3 and I can't imagine being fat--what kind of example are you being for your children? ugh.

Monday, July 2, 2007, 1:06 PM

hahaha this is a funny thread. "fatties", "fat dumps", "fatso"--all of them are great. Helping keep things light, airy and non-offensive.

Monday, July 2, 2007, 1:09 PM

1:06
You are apparently unaware that everyone's body is different and reacts differently. I had friends who nursed their babies and lost all their pregnancy weight within a couple of weeks. I nursed mine and my weight didn't go anywhere until I was done nursing. Children are not an excuse. Bodies do change a lot as they get older, and certainly after having children. I went from a too-thin person who could eat anything I wanted to someone who is somewhat overweight and has a tough time working it off. I also picked up a couple of allergies. Bodies do strange things, and you clearly don't understand anything about it. Go pick yourself up a medical degree.

Monday, July 2, 2007, 1:44 PM

Here here!!

Monday, July 2, 2007, 2:36 PM

To 1:44

Ha! I've been a practicing Nurse Practitioner for 7 years and have never been more psyhed to say it! hahahA!
Of course everyone's body is different but the fundamentals have always remained the same, eat less+exercise more=weighloss. What I find annoying is when people on this website try to finagle around those ageless basics and make it seem like it's "impossible" to lose weight. It's not rocket science-human bodies respond to how you treat them, whether it be with chemicals, massage, herbs, nutrients, etc. It's just our minds and poor habits that restrict us from seeing results. Yes. Bodies do change as we get older however, we as humans can and do have the ability to keep it healthy and running strong. I have found laziness and lack of motivation are what weigh us down as we get older (in otherwise healthy bodies.) As far as baby weight is concerned, in almost all cases I have dealth with over the years, It is an excuse-I will never, ever deny someone with health issues a "pass-go" card. However, I gotta say, in all honesty, as I get older I see a lot of women just let themselves "go".

Monday, July 2, 2007, 3:14 PM

I'm assuming you meant "psyched"... So psyched up you forgot the C. =)
BTW... The nurses I've known, either those who have taken care of me or my family, or through my mom who was a nurse for 30 years, seem to have more compassion than you. Maybe you'e compassionate in your job, and just take out your "real" feelings here. If not, I feel sorry for your patients who get kicked when they're down.
I haven't seen one person on this board who says it's impossible to lose weight. I've seen them get down on themselves and frustrated, because it's not easy. That's human.
I think you're confusing "excuse" with "reason" when it comes to baby weight. The reason I gained a bunch of weight is because I had and nursed babies later in life. That's not saying I can't lose it, it's just why it got there in the first place.

Monday, July 2, 2007, 5:21 PM

To 3:14

Of course you are going to pin-point irrelevant errors like spelling! So funny! My patients have nothing to do with my involvement with an anonymous weight-loss website. Compassion is my most prized trait, it's how I got to where I am in my career/life. As I noted earlier, if someone has a legit health concern/problem that doesn't allow them to lead a healthy lifestyle then I'm the first to give them a "pass-go card." However, I will again say that MOST otherwise healthy overweight women that I have spoken with and treated are overweight because they are lazy and don't much care about staying as healthy as they can be. It's kind of like the idea, "I've done my time." And, again, everybody is different so the fact that you had a bunch of baby weight to lose is particular to your body. Listen, I think your trying to pick a fight with nothing to fight about. I still stand my ground that there is no majic potion to lose weight, that every one's body is different and unfortunately a lot of the time baby weight is due to laziness and lack of commitment. So, pick apart my spelling errors all you want-I don't care.

Monday, July 2, 2007, 6:56 PM

Yeah

Can I just say that for weeks this has been such a cool thread to read. It is about time that a fun conversation was had on here. I was involved with the "Do you shave your legs" thread for a while, as it was a fun and interesting topic as I have several opinions on the whole thing - but it got old and stopped being responded too.
I enjoyed reading this thread and hope that it continues or another interesting one opens up.
I understand that this is a loose weight support site - but geez lets have fun also.

Monday, July 2, 2007, 8:50 PM

The spelling cops and grammar cops kill me. I am a weak speller and even worse at grammar. Come to think of it I am not to good at losing weight and maintaining it. But i usally feel encouraged > To night Ifeel judged!

Monday, July 2, 2007, 10:27 PM

Dont feel judged - when people point out your floors it is more a reflection of them not you!

Monday, July 2, 2007, 10:38 PM

So it's perfectly okay to judge people on their weight, like it's a character flaw. They're stupid, they're lazy, they're evil. But try to point out a spelling error (even as a joke, with a freaking smiley face to show you're KIDDING and don't really care) and OH MY GOD!!!! HOW DARE SHE! SHE'S SAYING I'M UNEDUCATED AND SHE'S AN EVIL BIOTCH for pointing out the teeniest flaw in something I don't even care about!

Any time I've ever pointed out a spelling/grammar/etc. error, the intention has always been "by the way," NOT "hey idiot, get it right." Maybe if you weren't so freaking insecure about your own judgemental self, you wouldn't have such a cow about it EVERY time.

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 12:12 AM

whaa, whaa, whaa. nobody likes me, everybody hates me, i'm gonna eat some worms. long thin slimy ones, short fat fuzzy ones, i'm gonna eat some worms. the long thin slimy ones slip down easily, the short fat fuzzy ones stick. when the short fat fuzzy worms stick to your throat, your tongue goes, "Ick!!"

remember that jingle? i really am so sick of the threads that just demand people leave a response. "why are you here?" "tell me about your worst break up" "what was the last straw?" i wouldn't be so bothered if the OP would leave an answer, too. it feels like it's just someone doing some free research for some article or something. i don't like to feel lioke i'm being used.

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 8:49 AM

Perhaps there has already been a post that has said this, but I'm not going to bother reading ninety or so comments to check...

I just get really sick and tired of people looking for a quick fix. There is so much discussion on this extreme diet and that extreme diet, this diet pill and that fat-loss pill, and I've actually seen posts on weight loss surgery as well.

I was fat. Really fat. And now I'm not. It didn't take that long, and it wasn't that difficult. I just worked out, ate right, and here I am, looking awesome. When people see me, they just get so overwhelmed and say, "HOW DID YOU DO IT?!" As if it's so difficult not to stuff yourself to the point of stomach explosion and then lay around and watch TV for several hours.

I also get really sick of hearing that any thin girl must have an eating disorder. If you don't sit down with friends/family/co-workers/whoever and stuff an entire pizza down your throat, they assume there's something wrong with you. Even on here, any time a poster mentions that people need to stop being chubby and lazy, she/he is immediately criticized and called any combination of stupid/anorexic/bulimic/ignorant/judgmental/etc. Any person in their right mind would say that overweight people need to stop being overweight. That doesn't mean that if it's said, the person who says it has an eating disorder. That's ridiculous.

ALSO I'm really tired of all the threads on here that mention "REAL women." What the hell does that mean? If I'm not in plus size clothing, I'm not a "REAL" woman?

Fat, skinny, whatever; 99% of the people on this website are assholes (and I may be one as well, but oh well).

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 1:02 PM

100!

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 6:05 PM

We all need to just be the best person we can be - no more no less

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 6:51 PM

I think Peertrainer is turning into a suckie place. Everyone seems super bitter and critical. It's kinda like a car wreck, I just, I don't completely enjoy it but can't seem to look away (from this stupid monitor.) There is always stupid postings of lame thread topics and then there are the mid-west, armpit of America folks. They are a "hoot" with their Gloria Vanderbilt dungarees and Walmart sale teachings. I just think I'm over this whole thing...I'm on it a lot because I can be but maybe it's time to try some other website. Then again, it would probably be the same crap.

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 7:09 PM

6:56 can you clear something up for me... Are you just talking about MEDICAL reasons? What about the women who are being abused or are depressed or feel like their life is out of control and all they can control is food. What about the people who were so poor they went to school just so they could have 1 meal a day and now that they have money they dont have a healthy relationship with food. What about all of them. What about the ones who were sexually abused and ate to become undesirable to their abuser. Are all of them given a pass go card? How do you know that the fat woman sitting next to you doesnt have a problem like that? Should all fat people wear a sign that goves their reason for being fat just so judgmental asses will be ok about someone elses weight and give them a pass go card? How do you think people in situations feel when they are criticized? when they are trying, even with little or no results or lots of back sliding, and someone like you looks at them like they are the scum on your shoe. Maybe instead of judging people you need to look deeper and understand that there are reasons for people being how they are and not all of it is laziness. And IMHO, I would be afraid to be your patient, I see absolutely no compassion whatsoever with you. Maybe you need to work at a battered womans shelter and see why women do what they do to their bodies that has nothing to do with laziness...From a pissed off Social Worker...

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 7:15 PM

7:15 You want a piece of this?

Ahh...yea...battered women and poor people are all to blame. P.S. I work at an STD clinic in the outskirts of the Oakland ghetto so I'm all set with the "sad story" rant and rave. I will AGAIN repeat myself, if someone has a legit health concern, i.e. mental disability, diabetes, traumatic life experience like being sexually abused that has left them poor and suffering unable to fend for themselves-then YES, I will gladly give that person the "OK" to put their physical health on hold. HOWEVER, if you are otherwise considered a healthy person, as I have said before several times----laziness and lack of motivation is the major contributor to obesity/overweight women that I interact with. Gah...whatdya have a crap day or something? Hey, news flash for ya, ain't my fault sister. 7:15-get over yourself

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 7:57 PM

An std clinic in the outskirts of oakland? no thank you. You sort of sound like a B*&^% but that's probably how you get thru your day.

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 8:30 PM

Being straightforward is often confused with being considered a B&%$#.

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 8:31 PM

So, so true 8:31!

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 9:41 PM

Lets just all be considerate of each other, help and support. It is really not that hard to be nice to our fellow man or woman

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 10:48 PM

HMM!

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 11:11 PM

7:57- You should be the one getting over herself. You keep bringing up what you do like that miraculously makes you a wonderful person we should all bow down to. Hell no I didnt have a bad day, I am just sick of people like you who think they have all of the answers and everyone should listen to them because they happen to have a degree. I am so glad that you feel you are God and can judge whether a person has a legit reason to be overweight. Man I wish I knew that, I would have addressed all of my concerns to you years ago. And no,being straightforward, in an appropriate manner, is not confused with being a b&*^%, being a b*&$# is being a b^%$@.
I will say though, that in your original post if you had said you are drawing your conclusions on people YOU personally interact with, then possibly people wouldnt have gotten so pissy with you. Oh but thats right, we dont know your story, just like you dont know most peoples story...

8:30 I completely agree...
10:48-according to the OP of this thread, it is actually a place for arguments to take place. It is all in good fun, at least for me because I know who I am and where I have been and need to go to be a good person and not a judgemental *&^ . ANd I am not calling you names, just others on this thread.

I do have to say I really enjoy a good debate so keep it coming.

Have a great 4th and be safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 11:40 PM

11:40-This is the last tme I am responding so enjoy it.
I brought up what I do for a living because in an earlier posting someone said something like, "why don't you get a medical degree" and I felt compelled to share my profession to prove my point. You are a social worker, we both understand hardships and challenges some people can go thru, I again felt compelled to bring up where I work to help prove a point. To say that I compare myself to God is a stretch although I do know that I help make some people's lives a bit more manageable. If you came to me as a patient with concerns about being overweight I would be more than happy to help you however, if you decide that being fat and unhealthy is the way to go I have far less compassion for you when you end up getting obesity-related health complications. Everyone makes choices in life and sometimes we make bad ones, Obviously we can change some of the outcomes but every cause has an effect and if you think that consciencely being overweight and unhealty warrants a pat on the back, then we come from a different school of thought. I don't believe you would feel that way because you know that's bad and would not benefit the patient long term. I don't think we are debating, I just think you are nit-picking at everything I type. It's lame, you are bad at it and I'm done. Enjoy your 4th (if you are from the states.)

Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 2:10 PM

I say all the fatties on this site shut up because you are obviously unqualified to talk about the subject of weight-loss.

Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 2:50 PM

i am tired of thread hijackers-start your own threads to debate about other subjects. I'm going to rant my arse off and take the thread back!

i am so tired of people saying they hate to exercise. You know, I used to hate to exercise too, when it was uncomfortable because I was out of shape. Now that I've been exercising consistently for a long time-exercise is fun, I look forward to it and I look great because of it. Get off the couch, just go go go!! That's the only way to ever get into it! No one can give you motivation to exercise except you!! Try everything!!!

i am so sick of the low-carb freaks who are afraid to eat whole grain bread or apples because they have a lot of carbohydrates, yet they will eat 8 slices of bacon and half a block of cheese for breakfast. yeah, that's got to be good for you!

i am so bored of hearing people ask "what are some great 100 calorie snacks?" and what they really mean is "What are your favorite processed crap foods that are under 100 calories?" . Because if they really were just seeking low calorie foods, they would only have to go to their local grocery store's produce department. Eat REAL food people-this is why americans are so fat, because we are always looking for a quick fix.

I am tired of religion getting so tied up in our politics. The fact that your church says that two men loving each other is wrong should have nothing to do with how our government should handle a basic human rights issue. The belief's of your church should not interfere with medical procedure's or a prescription I need to have filled. Not every American is a part of "your" church and they should not be subjected to what you think is right for them. I am not against religion or Christian beliefs, I just don't like them in my politics.

I am tired of parents blaming teachers for how their children behave. If your child is a nincompoop, he/she learned it from you or another relative. You should be so lucky to have wonderful teachers in your community who are doing their best to teach these kids invaluable knowledge and skills.

The TV is NOT a babysitter. We have a whole generation of children who spend more time with the TV than interacting with peers or family members. This is also why Americans are fat.

Use your blinker when making a turn! Don't pull out in front of me if there isn't a single car behind me! Don't drive in the fast lane if you are driving 50 mph!

There is no such thing as a "safe" base tan. I can't stand it when people tell me they go tanning before a trip just so that they don't get a bad sunburn on their trip to aruba. Um, put on SUNBLOCK!!! REPEATEDLY!! No worries then! Or at least just admit that you like being tan, don't act as though it's some secret skin cancer preventative measure because you are actually doing just as much damage to yourself as if you got an actual burn.

I hate when people say "oh, you're so lucky-you eat all the time and don't gain weight. it must be nice to be naturally thin." UM, I'm NOT naturally thin-I work my tail off 6 days a week, and I eat very healthily. It only looks like I eat constantly because I eat small portions every few hours. I WORK FOR THIS BODY!

Okay-enough ranting! I am going for a run now!

Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 2:54 PM

LOL...hey 2:54...want to be in a group with me? I need more people like you in my groups.

Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 8:59 PM

I agree wholeheartedly 2:54

Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 9:07 PM

2:54, so nice. I love what you brought up. i will admit though that i was one to complain about exercizing. BUT, once I started doing it I actually do look forward to it. I also walk 6 days a week and love it. It is relaxing and soothing, plus gives me alone time. As for the politics and religion, again, kudos to you. I am always afraid of a pharmacist turning down a prescription because they dont believe in it. WTF whats to believe in???? Its medicine for crying out loud. One more i must admit. I use the base tan thing, I actually thought it worked. Oh well you learn something new everyday, but I will admit I like being tan. I am latina and dont really need much, but during the winter it does fade so I get it while I can, but I also use sunscreen.

Happy 4th

Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 9:12 PM

2:10, so I can say what i want and no response, damn how nice. JK, Actually Now that you are a tad more civil you make sense and I can see the compassionate side of you, mostly. You actually had me until you threw in that last insult, but thats ok, it just makes me a better person because I can refrain. Anyway, I am actually very good at debating and nitpicking and reading between the lines, otherwise I would suck at what I do. I would have clients running all over me. Anyway, yes we are on the same page about the whole weight issue.
PS, yes I am from the states and had a great 4th thanks for thinking of me, lol.

Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 9:17 PM

the threads that ask dumb questions drive me batty!! haven't you people ever heard of google? "how many calories in a galss of wine?" look it up!! are you helpless? arggh!!

Thursday, July 5, 2007, 9:24 AM

i hate the "I ate a bag of chips last night and gained 5 lbs today. What do I do?" I hate having to explain to these people that if they do the math, calorie-wise they couldn't have gained 5 lbs, and that even if they could it doesn't show instantly. Then you have to go on to explain about sodium/water retention, undigested food, food moving through intestines etc. Stop obsessing over your weight on one particular day!!! watch the trend over time!

Thursday, July 5, 2007, 2:03 PM

ughh! the thread about weight/height/age or whatever is so bothersome to me. i don't get it!! why are people plugging in information (numbers, actually) with no point? is someone collecting these numbers for some as yet unknown reason? silly, silly, silly.

the hispanic and african american targetted threads are filled with a bunch of typical racist crap, too. live and let live. live free or die.

Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 3:34 PM

bump

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