TOTALLY OT: Anyone else NOT getting a bleeping refund?????????????????

I'm so tired of hearing about people getting money back! Especially the ones that complain they gave the gov an interest free loan.

Our household is not getting anything back. In fact we will pay pay pay!!!

Sorry had to vent.

Wed. Jan 31, 3:15pm

I made a little money on the stock market this year...I promise you, I'm cutting Uncle Sam a much bigger check than you are :(

Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 3:41 PM

i'm impressed at you two over-achievers who have already done your taxes. i just got my w2 yesterday.

Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 3:55 PM

to the 3:41 poster

This isn't a competition, but welcome to the elite 2% of the nation that are considered wealthy :)

Congrats on making some moolah and on behalf of those who will benefit from your tax contribution, I thank you! LOL!

We don't get enough pats on the back or thanks do we?

Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 4:01 PM

To 4:01 from 3:41 ... sadly, it was a rare and random event. I rent an apartment, I wear Old Navy, I have an old-fashion non-flat panel TV -- but if you want to classify me as the top 2% because I'm coughing up a few K in capital gains tax, I'll take it! Heh heh.

Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 4:13 PM

Yeah geez Louise, I haven't even got all my paperwork in the mail yet. I think I'm going to owe a lot of money. I might even have to pay a penalty. My personal peeve is not that I have to pay taxes, but that they are all being sucked into the apparently bottomless $$$ whirlpool of Iraq...

Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 4:15 PM

yeah, it cracks me up when i hear about some tax payers not wanting to support abortion rights with their taxes or religious schools or planned parenthood or welfare or umemployment or the like. it would be great if we could allocate where our taxes were spent-sort of like diversifying one's stocks/funds portfolio!!

Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 4:20 PM

or you could just donate to philanthropies of your choice, then use it as a tax write-off. that's the easiest way to pick where it goes.

Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 4:23 PM

i totally donate, but i certainly wouldn't donate to the war!! it would be grand if the taxes i earned for the government were distributed in ways that support my beliefs. i would so prefer that my tax $$s were spent in the US, say helping folks in the hurricane ravaged areas, or to the hungry children in Camden, NJ, or to the local mental health clinic. instead, these places predominately rely on support from charitable agencies (which i distrust more and more).

Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 4:35 PM

Ditto 4:23 poster!

Give it away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even our greedy politicians give it away! Heck! They even set up trusts for non existent people! Bwaaa ha ha!

Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 4:52 PM

To the poster that doesn't want their money going to Iraq, think of it as supporting the troops. If it weren't for your (and all the other US citizens) money, our sons and daughter would be fairing much worse. Thank you from a former Marine.

Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 6:15 PM

I've got nothing at all against the troops -- It's the Commander In Chief who needs the budget reality check. How long are the troops going to be there? It's expensive, and they're in danger.

Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 6:27 PM

if i saw evidence of my tax dollars being spent on the troops and their support, ie: better armoured protection, better bullet proofing on vehicles, NASA-style radar technology to detect roadside bombs from a safe distance, psychological evaluations and treatments, better pay and financial help for the reserve corps' families, and so much more potential support, then i would not mind that my taxes are being spent in iraq. but instead of the above, i read and hear about soooo much money being paid out to private contractors, no-bid contracts, iraqis who snitch and whether or not the info is legit, get thousands of dollars a month, road-building in areas where bombing hasn't even let up enough to travel, and so much other wasteful spending of the war funds, and it makes me sick. i guess i feel it's money that's really going to secure our oil interests in the region (even though bush is trying to preach about less dependence on oil and consevation, pullease!), and not doing anything for the troops except keeping them there longer.

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 10:04 AM

Why don't you ask someone in the military who has been to Iraq. Conditions for the troops are much better now than they were 3 years ago. Although the media doesn't like to show it, things are improving.

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 10:53 AM

I read somewhere that the average income in the USA is $22,000. Can you believe that? Here in New Jersey...you are poor if that is all you make.

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 12:00 PM

wow. i feel so poor sometimes, but i make over $22,000. and i am single w/ no dependents! it really makes you wonder how some families are expected to get by! and now there is talk of a discrepancy between raising the minimum wage and proposed tax breaks.

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 12:04 PM

Top 2%

Unfortunately, the very wealthy in this country are NOT paying taxes..that is how the laws have been changed to benefit the very rich in the past 6 years. If you are an average income family, you are footing the bill for the war, corporate welfare and everything else. I am a nurse, my husband is a teacher. We (and the bank) own our home. Our taxes last year were over $1.000. I wonder what Bill Gates paid?

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 12:58 PM

How do you figure that the very wealthy in this country are not paying taxes? The upper tax bracket is over 30%!

Your taxes were over $1000?! For a whole year?! So far this year (so, just January, 1 month), the federal gov't has already deducted $839.19 from my paycheck! And although I'm above average (just under $50k/year), I'm certainly not in the top 2%! And that doesn't even include state taxes, property taxes, etc. So, my federal taxes for this year will be around $10,000, it looks like! Not $1,000! My property taxes are around $5,000 (though if you're going just based on salary, consider it $2,500, b/c my husband makes about the same amount that I do, so I suppose that means he pays half the property taxes, half the mortgage, etc.)

Wow, $1,000 in taxes for a year! I could never complain about that!

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 1:16 PM

i think it meant $1,000 paid to the gov't instead of getting a refund, that on top of what's already been deducted from paychecks.

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 1:39 PM

Want to talk about depressing? We paid well over six figures...IN TAXES.

Sometimes I can't comprehend how we can pay more in taxes than what the average, heck well to do average make annually.

While many tax dollars are squandered (sp) tax dollars also go to good causes, what is unfortunate are the people that figure out how to manipulate the system. And I'm talking about the poor. The rich are the first to figure out how to stay rich, and I just thik that is unethical.

::::Steps off soapbox:::::

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 1:49 PM

CORRECTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!

"NOT TALKING ABOUT THE POOR"

THINK...NOT THIK :)

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 1:50 PM

I don't want money back. If you get money back, you're financially irresponsible.

Yes, if you get money back, it's an interest-free loan. That money could have been gaining interest in any number of money market accounts like ING, where the rate is around 4.5% or so. Not amazing, but not too shabby either.

Or, you could have been investing in your house, your kids, or spending some of that cash on some new workout duds.

The key is to balance out where you owe little or nothing at all. But don't give the government interest-free loans, it's awful at managing money.

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 2:49 PM

The average household income is $43,318 according to the U.S. Census.

Link

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 2:51 PM

i thought the household income average must be higher than 22k. that is just for a single person.

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 2:55 PM

Speaking on behalf of top 2% - READ ON 12:58 POSTER

Wealthy to do lassie here and of course we pay taxes. And of course Bill Gates pays taxes you ninny! Additionally, why on earth are you knocking Bill Gates? Not only is he wealthy, but one of the greatest philanthropists of our day. Shame on you for #1 comparing your pidly self to Bill Gates #2 attempting to tarnish his reputation with unfounded statements on his tax contributions!

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 3:00 PM

I suspect that people who claim the top 2% don't pay enough taxes don't understand how our tax system works. Sorry if that sounds elitist, but as a generalization, it's true. They hear terms like "the rich get richer" and assimilate it into their belief system without any proof. Why don't we reduce the higher income tax brackets, i.e. everyone pays the same % of tax. How would they feel then?

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 5:20 PM

I realize that getting a refund back is like giving the Gov't an interest-free loan, however, for my hubby & me, that's about the only way we'd ever have a little extra at hand.....

I'm currently trying to "trim the fat" both off of my body and off of my household budget....It's not always the easiest thing to do.....

I actually set up my taxes so that I pay extra.. for me, it really helps... One of these days, we'll be better balanced so that we won't have to do that, but for the time being, it seems to help us out...

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 11:58 PM

don't sweat the small stuff in life. do you like where you live? do you have enough money to live ok? do you like who you live with? that is all that matters.

Friday, February 2, 2007, 2:43 AM

2:49 - I'm not financially irresponsible, but financially ignorant perhaps. But still, I prefer to KNOW that I'm getting a big chunk of money back rather than wonder if I'm going to owe money or not.

Also, I DO wish the taxes were the same rate for everyone. I'm not a "defender of the rich," but I am a proponent for "fairness." It doesn't seem fair that some people pay a bigger percentage of taxes just because they make more money. That seems rather communist to me.

Friday, February 2, 2007, 1:37 PM

p.s. - I'm the 1:37 poster.
I got my state taxes back on Monday and my federal taxes back today! Wahoo!!

Friday, February 2, 2007, 1:59 PM

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