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Should I log sex as workout/exercise?

And how many calories does it burn? I'm actually really serious!!!!

Tue. Jul 25, 10:31pm

check cal burning sites. Sex is always on there.

Tuesday, July 25, 2006, 10:38 PM

I totally do if it was a great session. If I'm sweaty and utterly exhausted when it's over, of course it was a workout. If we were doing it missionary, and I spent half the night rocking my hips up off the bed- I consider that an ab workout. If he's seated, and I've got my back to him in a squat position- total leg work, above an beyond the cardio aspect of it :)

Tuesday, July 25, 2006, 11:11 PM

I find this thread offensive and think it should be removed. There are may teens on this site now. Just figure it out on your own. There are plenty of places to look up the calorie burn from intercourse.

Tuesday, July 25, 2006, 11:28 PM

Dear god, teens know plenty about sex, probably more than many adults on here. This thread is really not going to traumatize or corrupt them.

Tuesday, July 25, 2006, 11:32 PM

hehe, I think we should start a thread brainstorming ways to get the best workout out of *ahem* "the best way to workout" ;) I mean, why not try and double up on the benefits of sex? :)

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:32 AM

From what i found for a 200 pound person having sex for half an hour burns about 400 calories.. i would totally count it as exercise!!!

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 2:58 AM

Sadly, I can run or do the elliptical for waaaay longer than my boyfriend can ummm...."exercise" with me :)

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 7:01 AM

unfortunately, this is not part of my exercise routine... :( : )

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 8:22 AM

You should wear a heart-rate monitor and see how many calories it burns to be most accurate. I don't know if I should try it... I bet my BF wouldn't be too thrilled ;)

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 8:52 AM

to the 8:52 ---- What a way to let your bf know to pick it up a notch (without ever saying a word: :)

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 8:59 AM

C'mon

don't be an ass. You could also log grocery shopping, vacuuming, etc. as exercise. How 'bout getting some REAL exercise. The regular things in life shouldn't ever count, sorry.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 9:47 AM

i agree that some of the descriptions on this thread are inappropriate. this is not a forum for chit-chat, it is a site designed to support healthy life style changes and weight-loss efforts. and i am entitled to my opinion and do not feel bad for sharing it.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 9:51 AM

The people that are offended aren't getting any.

Well, I am entitled to my opinion as well and I do not think it is offensive. I get daily, regular exercise, but also maintain a very active sex life with my fiancee. We have sex 1 to 4 times per day and each session ranges from 30 minutes to 1 hour. I definitely think that it burns a lot of calories!!!! I feel sorry for the ones that were offended by this post as I am sure they are not getting any. Release stress, feel better and get more exercise -- Just Do It. :)

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 10:05 AM

I respectfully disagree. This is totally a forum for chit chat as well as a support system for healthy lifestyle changes and weight loss efforts. It's all a worthy discussion.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 10:06 AM

There are MANY physical and emotional benefits to a healthy and active sex life, which you can read about in just about any health publication, so this discussion qualifies as a way to explore a more healthy active way of living! It's also one of the only forms of exercise that is a positive feedback system: The more I have, the more I want!

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 10:39 AM

while i agree with the above poster's points, there are other postints that do not need to go into detail about positions, frequncy, etc. just to discuss the benefits of a healthy sex life. i think we all need to remember that there are younger readers on this site and we should try, at least in this public forum, to be respectful of them. to claim that showing respect for the younger generation is due to my lack of sex is just childish and provocative.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 10:59 AM

I agree that this is an open forum and I am not easily offended. I think that most of the comments have been decent except for the 11:11 poster last night. That went way over the top of what is appropriate. And before any of you start saying that I am not getting any, I am.... I just feel the need to write a paragraph that almost belongs in Penthouse.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:05 AM

11:05 poster again... I don't feel the need to write a paragraph

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:06 AM

No one is saying to go out and have sex with strangers, acquaintances, etc., or any other things that are typically considered "immoral." Not even the most conservative or religious people believe that it is immoral to have sex within the bounds of marriage. Thus, sex in and of itself is not wrong. And, it's active, and thus, exercise.

My gym does not allow people under the age of 18 to enter. Does that mean that I should not talk about what I do within that gym, because it is something that younger teens cannot do?

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:06 AM

Exercise only benefits your weight loss goals if its over and above normal daily activity. For example, walking to and from the grocery store shouldn't count if that's what you always do. Vacuuming? Maybe for the first month after you fire the cleaning lady. I do a very physical job but I don't count that even though calorie calculators say "300 cals per hour" for it (load of crap, I'd be skeletal if that were true). I count the gym. I count the walking I do when it's at least a mile -- a journey most would take a subway/taxi/etc for.

It all harkens back to that adage: If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you always got.

So unless you install a trapeze above your bed specifically to sweat more in the bedroom, sex is just normal activity for those of you who are lucky enough to have someone worth sharing yourself with.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:07 AM

to 11:06...
i do not think you should not discuss what happens in your gym, however, i do think you should not discuss-here-what happens in your bedroom. these are things to be shared within your own group, not the public discussion boards. why don't you start a group for "sex-ercisers" or something so that all who think of this activity as exercise can chat with each other without offending other pt members?

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:17 AM

Since when is being "respectful of teens" equivalent to NOT discussing sex? It's not the teens who are offended or blown away by this information, it's the parents who are under the false impression that their darling 16 year old has never had a hand up her shirt or smooched a boy.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:34 AM

the only thing that has been offenses is the poster who went into detail about her positions and working up a sweat. That went way beyond appropriate.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:43 AM

It's parental responsiblity, not mine.

It is not my job to be a role model for all teens that may be on the PT site. It is the responsibility of the PARENTS to instill values on their children. By the time they reach their teen years, they should have enough knowledge, to do the right thing.....Teens should NOT be shielded from real life. IF they were brought up the right way -- it is not going to corrupt them, same as if they are getting peer pressure to have sex. I am sick of everyone having to take care of other peoples kids ---- including schools, government, and public posts. It is the PARENTS responsbility. Teens will be faced with all kinds of things -- they don't grow up living under a rock.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:44 AM

is it so hard for you to NOT post about sex on a weight-loss support site? what is so terrible about just discussing exercise and eating habits? there are thousands of other sites to discuss what you want to about sex-this just is not marketed for that purpose.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:49 AM

PT is a website that is for healthy lifestyle -- that may include sex

PT is a website that helps you maintain a healthy lifestyle -- body, mind and spirit. And my friend, to complete that equation, most need to have a healthy sex life. Sex is a natural, biological thing. No one here is posting anything explicit or worthy of Penthouse or Playboy. I am a female and happen to be an avid reader of Playboy. No one went into any specific details. Relax, this is a forum for the health-conscious. And sex does play a factor in that.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:52 AM

11:49 Poster

No one was discussing sex in terms that relate to pornography or initimate details of their relationship. We are discussing it in terms of a healthy lifestyle --both physically and emotionally. Physical HEALTH and Emotional HEALTH.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:55 AM

there is actually a sex diet and a book about it so talk about it here id not concider offensive...i have a 14 year old son and by the age of 11 they are talking about sex in health class so as some have said they know more about it than you may think and im sure if they are on peer trainer they are on other sites on the net and have seen and read WAY more that if they should count sex as an exercise LOL

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:55 AM

Wonderful comment 11:55 Poster

I agree! :)

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:57 AM

Without a doubt, sex is exercise. Or at least can be. Those who walk for two miles at a leisurely pace without getting their heart rate up aren't really exercising. Women who just kinda lay there during sex aren't getting exercise. I disagree that because it's part of "every day living" it can't be considered exercise- if the duration and intensity of the "session" is more than usual- count it. Kudos to the people who are always absolutely spent after every session, because I'm betting that's a little rare- maybe they shouldn't count it...

However, let's be honest. Anything that can get your heart rate up that high, and cause you to sweat that much is exercise. AND PT is about exercise- all the various forms. Sex is entirely AMORAL. The context of sex has morality values depending on who you are. And to discuss sex, one can entirely leave out the context so that they never have to address the morality of sex.

And if sex is exercise, let's be real- we'll discuss better ways to work your upperbody, where people can post the various exercises they use- besides that some prudes are bothered by it, what's the difference between talking about pushups and tricep dips for upper body work, or positions in sex?

We've had two threads about "sexless marriage" that's infinitely less related to exercise and "health" than sex AS exercise. And MY personal opinion is that a discussion of sex is infinitely less damaging to young teens than some of the other discussions that are on this site.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:13 PM

such as?

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:19 PM

the sexless marriage threads pertained to losing interest in your partner, or them losing interest in you, because of the seemingly fruitless weight-loss efforts or lack of effort at all.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:31 PM

try this site to help determine the calories you burn...http://dftools.ivillage.com/healthtools/calc_cb.cfm

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:35 PM

How about this--

If you do not agree with the content discussed on a message board in a free online and public community, then maybe you should go somewhere else.

There are plenty of weight loss sites and message boards on the internet, perhaps you can find one that more "appropriate" for your taste.

Just a suggestion.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:38 PM

i wonder how many calories one burns trying to convince others that they are wrong because they have different opinions? these threads are for everyone to support each other, not attack each other. let's try to stay on topic...the above suggested link is cool. you can get an idea of how many calories you burn during lots of different activities.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:42 PM

Whatever. That link is total spam, which be deleted, PT????

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:43 PM

to the 11:44 poster

Obviously your parents did not do a good job instilling values, because if they did you would see what is wrong with the statemets such as rocking my hips back and forth and so on.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:49 PM

why do you call it spam? i though it worked just fine. you don't need to sign up for anything...would you please explain so i can understand?

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:50 PM

the one sexless marriage thread had nothing to do with weightloss and everything to do with a woman who's losing respect for her husband because she wants to be the one staying at home with the kid, not him. It wasn't about weightloss.

So we can talk about NOT getting any as if we should be getting some, but then we can't talk about if we ARE getting some? Lets get real....

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:53 PM

btw, do we even have any idea how many minors are on this site? Cuz my impression is that it's mostly middle aged women....

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 12:54 PM

I haven't "seen" or come across one middle aged woman. Everyone in my group is in their 20's. Well, I've seen guys too.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 1:08 PM

Hey, I'm not underage (what does that mean anyway?), I'm 28, but I've been talking about sex since I was what, 16?

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 1:10 PM

If people are talking about sex, what is wrong with mentioning rocking hips? Have you ever tried that while having sex? Man is it an ab workout. I think it would send a worse message to teens that you can't talk about sex, and you can't do things to make yourself enjoy it... (as someone mentioned, if we even have an minors here anyways)

You can do the same by lying on your back, and putting a balance ball between your legs - your legs should be "open" in a v, with your heels near the bottom of the ball. Then rock the ball and bring your knees as close to your chest as possible. Killer ab workout. Also known as sex curls.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 1:18 PM

Frankly, i don't really care if someone finds what we post on peertrainer as "offensive". I come here for support, motivation, inspiration and sometimes for straight-up entertainment. If I want morals, i'll go to church. There are some threads that don't interest me at all-so I don't click on them. If you are offended by threads about sex, don't click on them!!!!!! this one had it right out there in the open.

i'm so tired of the "holier than thou" posters who do and say everything right-your world is bland!!!!!

Besides, weightloss/diet are the business of adults. Yes, some teenagers and children are overweight and do need to lose, but that is something for them to take up with their doctor and parents, not a bunch of strangers on a forum. Teenagers really don't belong on PT anyhow.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 1:48 PM

Well said, 1:48 poster!

In addition, if teens can access the internet, they have seen FAR worse than PT!!! :)
And to respond to the vacuuming quote...I wish I vacuumed as much (or as enthusiastically, I guess) as I had sex...then I WOULD count that as exercise too!

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 2:39 PM

To the 1:48 Poster - I Agree

I am the OP that started all this ..... and I am glad I did. Perfectly said 1:48

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 2:50 PM

when you filter out sex sites from your computer so that your teens cannot access them from home, peertrainer is still available as a tool to help one gain encouragement to lose/maintain weight. i do not feel "holier than thou", and i am not taking shots at the posters on this thread (unlike so many others). i, and i am not the only "dissenter" on this thread, am simply giving an opinion about some of the posts here. sorry you exhibit the need to cut me down for my opinion. seems like you have more to work on than your weight issues...

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 2:53 PM

2:53 Poster

You are now taking shots at the other poster that you feel took a shot at you. If you are worried about your teen on the Internet, why aren't you monitoring him or her while they are on the Internet? If there is a website with forums for public chats or message boards, there is an opportunity for your teen to be exposed to such things and much, much worse. You can't shield your children from these things, but teach them right from wrong. And if you feel talking about sex on general terms is bad, then I guess that is what you should teach your child.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 2:58 PM

2:53 poster

I'm with you.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 2:59 PM

I totally agree with the poster who said that it is not out job to monitor what other people's kids are doing. Their parents should be "raising" them and we should not have to censor what we say or do becuase kids might be on this site. Watch your own kids. Plus if this is the worst thing they see on the internet, consider them lucky!!!

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 4:31 PM

ha

i just have to add, thank you everyone for the entertainment ..lol !!so much controvery over one little simple question "Should I log sex as workout/exercise?

And how many calories does it burn? I'm actually really serious!!!! "

in my experience i would have to say the children that are tought sex is bad ! are worse off then the kids that were positivley exposed to SEX yes I said it SEX. you cover your childrens eyes lock them up keep them from the REAL world . when you unlock the door they will not know what the hell to do or who to turn too ! leading to disease , unsual sexual appetites resulting in RAPE , the list could go on and on . so please people speak about sex freely afterall it is a necessty of life.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 5:07 PM

I think you're all crazy!

I'm not offended. I'm not interested in the calorie expediture of sex. I was just shocked that since I logged onto this site 16 hours ago, 48 people posted a comment on this thread.

So, I just wanted to say that you're all crazy and love you all, prudes and sex addicts alike. Keep up the good work.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 7:01 PM

Does being crazy burn calories? I think it does!!! :)

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 9:32 PM

Sex and calories

The thread shows the difference between older and younger women! When I got it, I definitely was slimmer and when it dried up, my weight went up! It is the positive feeling we have that helps stop the emotional eating.

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:38 PM

that' so sad. Many older women have sex.

Thursday, July 27, 2006, 8:04 AM

well, that really put a damper on things!

I am not a prude and I get "it" enough - not 4 hours a day as one poster - but I have some other things I need to do in my life.

I have recommended this site to a friend who has a teenage daughter with a weight problem. There are actually several groups of teens.

I'm sure the girl knows about sex ... but I would not want her to read a grown woman's post about the variety of positions she enjoys, or the many hours a day another poster spends having sex ... that's just not the purpose or the point of this website.

Thursday, July 27, 2006, 5:03 PM

i posted a thread to see the ages of people on the site ...the yougest out of some 50 replys was 19 so i think it would be safe to say the majority on the site are not teens

Thursday, July 27, 2006, 5:42 PM

actually, that tells you the age of the people who read that thread in the community this afternoon ... not very scientific or conclusive
search the groups for "teen" and you'lll see

Thursday, July 27, 2006, 10:34 PM

Hye, I am the prudish objector who started this argument ... I am sorry! We should all just support each other, whatever we want to talk about.

Best wishes to you all !

Thursday, July 27, 2006, 10:52 PM

hi, yeah, um 10:34 poster, i just searched the groups for "teen" and "teens" and only found two groups, consisting of 5 members total.

Also, the responses to the "age" thread were not just from this afternoon.

it's true the same people read the community threads over and over, and some just come here to log . .. scientific or not, i think it's pretty safe to say since there are only two "teen" groups (or labeled as so) and one 19 year old reading/posting on the age thread, i'd say an overwhelming majority of PT users are adult women who shouldn't be sensored about language, topic or anything else for that matter.

Friday, July 28, 2006, 1:12 AM

Many groups are full (so they don't show) or private (So they don't show either), doing a search on this site is not a complete or accurate way to see if there are teens here or how many there are.

Friday, July 28, 2006, 9:11 AM

your search proved that there are groups of teens .., what's your argument? How many teens do there need to be?

What if the standard were this: don't say anything on this site that you would not say at a dinner party, or cookout or in the lunchroom at work? Why should people have lower standards for manners and decorum here than other public places?

Friday, July 28, 2006, 9:15 AM

Because this is NOT a dinner party, a cookout, or a luncheon at work! People come on here because it is anonymous and they can share their true feelings. I, for one, would never sit around the workroom and tell people how much I pigged out the night before, or whether or not I was considering diet pills. There are plenty of off topic threads, do you oppose to them as well?

This thread is largely overlapping the censorship thread...it is the internet...it is 2006....say what you want! YOU DONT HAVE TO READ IT! No one wants you to be offended, but I am JUST as offended reading your responses...

Friday, July 28, 2006, 9:41 AM

to the 7/28 1:12 AM poster: I'm glad I don't rely on you or your research techniques for important topics. your methods are flawed for the purposes of proving a point.

i strongly disagree that "no one wants you to be offended". there are many remarks here that seem to offend on purpose (labeling people as "prudes" because they have a different sense of decency, for example. and suggesting that the opposers to this thread are "old and dried up and no longer getting any"). the point of objecting is to protest what one feels is wrong-it is the american way. do you turn your back on all issues you do not support and just let things happen? i, for one, like to participate in life and do so by supporting and protesting certain ideas, behaviors, ideals, etc.
why are you so stead-fast against the posts of those who do not agree with your sense of morality on this site? if you do not expect some people to disagree with your views and feel free to voice those objections, why don't you just journal instead?

Friday, July 28, 2006, 10:14 AM

I'm the 1:12 am poster, and actually, my post was in response to the 10:34 pm poster who said "actually, that tells you the age of the people who read that thread in the community this afternoon ... not very scientific or conclusive
search the groups for "teen" and you'lll see". And i believe that my response fully disproves the point of the 10:34 poster. Reread the wording of both posts and you will see.

Perhaps my research techniques could use some fine tuning, but having said that, you may need to have a refresher course on thorough reading
comprehension.

And I am assuming your other comments were directed at other posters as I never wrote any of the other quotes. But I personally full on expect to disagree with others at times, and frankly relish it! You should take your own advice and go write and read your own journal so you won't be offended by language used on public forums.

Friday, July 28, 2006, 2:11 PM

from 10:14

to the above poster: you really come across as hostile.

as far as journalling, i do. and i use whatever language i want to. i come to this site for support and motivation, expecting to attract all kinds of experiencial advise from any one who can offer it. so i tailor my language to that audience of "everyone".

i am not trying to attack your viewpoint, just sharing my own.

Friday, July 28, 2006, 2:27 PM

funny

did anyone actually answer the orignal questian??? or are we on a different topic now??

Friday, July 28, 2006, 2:49 PM

at 187lbs

15 min foreplay 30 min intercourse

Activity Calories burned
Sex - foreplay 31
Sex - intercourse 180
Total Calories Burned 210

Friday, July 28, 2006, 2:53 PM

answer is here...

july 26, 12:35 pm

i provided this web site address that can help calculate many activities, including sex. someone else labeled it as spam, though i do not know why. i asked why, but received no response...i think the referenced site answers the original question.

Friday, July 28, 2006, 2:56 PM

To the 2:11 poster - you seem to be arguing with me ( whatever time I posted )... and I don't understand why!!!!

I said there were teens on the site, you found two groups of teens - which seems to illustrate that there are teens on the site. So what if the average age is 30 ?

Friday, July 28, 2006, 3:08 PM

Ok, I have to chime in. So a couple teens on this site run across this thread. They are ALREADY on Myspace being chased by pedophiles in every corner of this country.

Friday, July 28, 2006, 3:13 PM

Right, there is already so much trash and sex and cursing and nastiness on the web ... let's just add to it! Why would we aspire to do better?

Friday, July 28, 2006, 3:16 PM

this is so funny!! Almost better than Craigslist!

Friday, July 28, 2006, 3:27 PM

I'm 57 years young and while I might not agree with everything being said, I'm not a prude. But it seems those being offended are still coming back for more. This is hilarious!

Friday, July 28, 2006, 6:07 PM

It is hilarious. People ask a question and there are so much bickering! A lot of closed minded people on this website I am finding out...

Kind of makes me not want to read the threads... And please don't everyone come back with "well don't read them then blah, blah, blah"
I
agree with those on the side of when you see a thread about sex, if you don't want to hear about sex then don't read the thread. Common sense people

Friday, July 28, 2006, 6:43 PM

yes, you could log sex as a workout ... if you want to tell everyone who reads your log when you have sex. That strikes me as odd ... it's one thing to say sex is good, or no sex is bad , or how can I get my husband to have sex with me , but when you propose noting that you burned 400 c. last night doing the nasty ... is it closed minded to think that is a bit too much? I mean, that was the original question.

Friday, July 28, 2006, 7:25 PM

Recreational exercise

How about we use a euphemism for such things, try to avoid offending, and label time spent doing things that break a sweat (but you don't want to overshare about) as: Recreational Exercise? What say you, fellow recreationalists? ;)

Friday, July 28, 2006, 8:34 PM

8:34 Poster

Perfect response-- I love it! :) I will start to log it that way. Thanks for the suggestion. PS...I am the OP.

Friday, July 28, 2006, 10:07 PM

HOW BIG does the BALL have to be???

"You can do the same by lying on your back, and putting a balance ball between your legs - your legs should be "open" in a v, with your heels near the bottom of the ball. Then rock the ball and bring your knees as close to your chest as possible. Killer ab workout. Also known as sex curls. "

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 1:18 PM

Friday, July 28, 2006, 10:54 PM

quite entertaining!

I'm 32 and married, happily... and just read out loud most of this thread to my parents and dh who were in the room.... And they were pretty tough on me keeping me away from boys in my teen years too boot.
(kind of dissapointed the most obnoxious post was deleted... this was the first night I had seen this thread)

Friday, July 28, 2006, 11:08 PM

I definitely count my sex as an exercise. I sweat, it's got to be as much of a workout as walking.

Monday, October 23, 2006, 10:22 AM

Should I log sex as workout/exercise?

... Not the way I do it. (cries)

Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 8:16 PM

LMAO!!!

Friday, April 13, 2007, 7:56 PM

Not as cardio, anyway.

Sorry.

Link

Saturday, April 14, 2007, 4:17 AM

spark people, 1
PT community prudes, 0

Saturday, April 14, 2007, 9:52 AM

Boy you must be riding your guy long and hard (no pun intended) to count it as exercise. You would need to keep your heart rate elevated for 20-30 min to do anything worthy of what you would do out exercising or using a machine. I get real sweaty and do a lot of work but I would never count it as exercise. Its an everyday thing, would you count cleaning the kitchen or bathroom as well. No most people don't.

Saturday, April 14, 2007, 3:50 PM

The way that I look at it, is that anything that raises your heart rate is good. Things like taking the stairs instead of the lift, or getting off the bus a bit earlier. It may not have a huge contribution, but I feel that it all contributes and I know that if I didn't do it then I would see a difference.

Everything contributes in some way, there's just a limit to the level of detail that you need to go into when describing your "workout".

Monday, April 16, 2007, 4:30 AM

Only log it if you did it for its workout value and not because it's your usual routine. After all, exercise should only count if it's not your usual lifestyle - like walking 3 minutes to your car.

Wednesday, May 16, 2007, 8:06 PM

Oh please, would you log walking to your car?

Wednesday, May 16, 2007, 9:22 PM

Sorry, my point wasn't clear -- walking 3 minutes to your car isn't something you would log because you don't have a choice about doing it. Walking around the block for 20 minutes at lunchtime is.

Wednesday, May 16, 2007, 9:29 PM

WOW

I have read all the comments on this thread and it has veered off topic a couple of times. And that is okay in my book.

We should never be defensive with each other. We are trying to help one another, not indoctrinate each other on what we consider "right" and "wrong". Let's chat, but not use this as a forum for releasing our anger and hostilities.

If there are people that are offended, you have the right. Say you are, but don't try to convince others to take up your feelings.

If you are encouraged by the question and have oftened wondered but didn't have an outlet to ask it, you have the right to know the answer.

Even Oprah has Dr. Oz come to the show to ask difficult questions we often are afraid to ask.

I commend the OP for the courage to raise such a controversial topic, but let's move forward and continue encouraging one another as opposed to casting judgement.

Wednesday, May 16, 2007, 11:54 PM

God I hate Oprah.

Thursday, May 17, 2007, 2:23 AM

I'm willing to bet Oprah's not having sex.

Thursday, May 17, 2007, 8:52 AM

Um...

to answe the OP...
Yes log it! WHile you're at it, tell us all about it! We want details! LMAO

For God sake, yes it is a healthy form of exercise. If you're doing it right, you can burn far more than 400 calories!!!

Thursday, May 17, 2007, 11:03 AM

exercise = good
sex = good

if you're burning calories by whatever means, then log it!

Problem solved

Friday, May 18, 2007, 9:55 AM

Lighten Up!

Goodness me! I just glanced at this thread. America is demented! People have sex! How on earth do you think we got here. To the detractors: Do you know that TV programmes with sex are considered more unsuitable for children than ones with violence, think about that. Sex is a fantastic, normal part of life, and as a couple of the other posters said, teens already know plenty about it. Reiterating others points of view, sex IS part of a healthy balanced life. It was a very reasonable question from the original poster, and if she is doing it 1-4 times a day Good Luck to her!

Friday, May 18, 2007, 10:23 AM

wow....

I am totally blown away by how rude and mindless some women can be!!! Gosh guys if someone wants to talk to about their way of "recreational exercises" (I love that phrase btw!) then let them, I mean we are all adults here or try to adult about things but some are right about the support...it was a simple question and it doesnt hurt to answer or ask any question.

Personally I think you should log it. Any exercise is great and if that is one of them then I think a person who doesnt get that much exercise but does get sex in CAN count that towards having exercise...I thought exercise was physical workout....not just elavated heart rates etc., it burns calories and can be counted!!! More power to your wieght loss goal and always smile.

Friday, May 18, 2007, 10:35 AM

This is why I have a very few select women friends. Ever since I was in middle school it seemed to me that most girls are giggly and silly with not much of anything real or deep to talk about. My view hasn't changed much. I still hear women talking about superficial things, hair, makeup, men to name a few. I think its sort of sad that so many women are like this. A lot of women seem bitter and angry and they are way to competitive and caddy with each other.

To get back to the subject. Your sex life is just that, your sex life. If you have wild, sweaty sex for an hour by all means log it if you want. I have sex like that sometimes but I don't count it as a workout.

Friday, May 18, 2007, 10:55 AM

why are these ancient threads being stirred up again?

Friday, May 18, 2007, 12:00 PM

because of the influx of new members, no doubt.

Friday, May 18, 2007, 12:27 PM

Wow, to me this is the funniest thread I have read in a long time! I mean, a nice, simple, honest question that could easily be answered turns into a morality debate! Okay, here's the deal, any activity which keeps your heart rate in the target zone for 30min or longer is exercise. ANYTHING. Somebody mentioned vacuuming. If you have a 40 room house and really vacuum fast to get your heart rate up for 30 min or longer, that's exercise. It doesn't matter if it's routine or not.

Friday, May 18, 2007, 8:26 PM

I clicked on most replies and saw this. very funny indeed.

Friday, May 25, 2007, 8:53 AM

I too had to check it out when I saw how many replies there were. what a hoot!

Friday, May 25, 2007, 2:44 PM

most threads that receive 30 or so responses inevitably end up off-track and discussing morality or manners or pointing out spelling or grammatical errors. this is a rare one that veered back on-track.

Friday, May 25, 2007, 2:49 PM

This is wayyyyyyy too funny.

Hey if I can burn an extra 400 calories and get more from it than the elliptical machine can provide its got to be good !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Friday, May 25, 2007, 3:06 PM

you obviously haven't ever been on MY elliptical machine, mwuhahaha!!

Friday, May 25, 2007, 3:21 PM

may 18th 10:55
"dont hate me cause you aint me"

Friday, May 25, 2007, 11:15 PM

Is this about burning calories or offensive language?

If you are concerned about teens on this site...Monitor your child's computer usage. This is about weight loss...diets...exerise...& health. And these "sex" questions are legitiment questions concerning ones health. So, grow up! And cover "the birds & the bees" with your child.

Friday, May 25, 2007, 11:35 PM

To those who try to "shelter" your teens from sex and "filter" out any harmful content...I just wanted to remind you that the more "taboo" and "wrong" and "off-limits" you make sex, the more your kids will want to do it. If it is just something you talk about in a normal conversation, like talking about poop or talking about the weather or whatever, then it will not be such a big deal.

Kids only want what they can't have.

Sheltering them does NOT prevent sex. It only makes them want it more, and in many cases, leads to MORE STD's and MORE teen pregnancy because the kdis don't use protection and are too afraid to ask for it.

I don't think anything said on this thread was inappropriate, even for teenagers.

Sex is a normal healthy thing. And there are actually numerous studies out there that show that people with healthy sex lives live longer, healthier lives, and have lower rates of blood pressure and obesity and heart disease. So I think the OP has a valid question, and rather than getting all huffy about someone mentioning that "s" word that you try to pretend does not exist...perhaps just have an adult conversation about the actual question?

And show your kids how boring it can be to talk about sex!

Saturday, May 26, 2007, 1:28 AM

the comments regarding the appropriateness of discussing sexual activity were in response to a comment that has since been removed, where specific and graphic details were given about positions and durations and certain pleasures burning more calories. it was genuinely not appropriate. unless you school your children in the art of kama sutra...

Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 11:08 AM

Parents should do their jobs...

I am a very conservative person that doesn't want my kids to read things like this... However, as a parent, if my child were doing things on the internet, I would make sure they stay away from things I don't want them to see (mainly to keep them from making dumb decisions and giving to much info to pedophiles). If teens are on this website and their parents don't like it, the parents should do something about it. Parents should also be a teens support for weight loss, so maybe they should be there when their teen logs onto pt. As for any teen reading this log:If this would piss off your parents you should leave this thread!

Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 1:07 PM

Hey lets be realistic they are more likely to learn all what they want by picking up issues of legitamate health mags (the ones target towards women - there's about three main ones out there).
There is nothing wrong with this topic nor the opinions expressed on it.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 2:11 PM

if you dont like the subject, just stay off of that particular thread !!!

Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 4:48 PM

I wouldn't count it, but I don't count things like housework either and some people do.

Thursday, May 31, 2007, 12:13 AM

sex IS a work out!

seriously, if it wasnt, then why would Operah have a special about a couple who lost weight doing it? and why would many sites have how many calories it burns? i can help but feel like those who are opposing this topic are like little kids saying "OHH MY GOD! HE SAID THE 'S' WORD!! QUICK!! TELL THE TEACHER!!" I mean really, report problems to the authorities, and dont bring drama here.

and to the poster above me, i agree with you kinda. because i think vigorous housework IS a workout, and i log it, and i think sex is a workout, and i log that.

i, personaly, log it for burning 200 calories per 30 minutes.

Children who shouldnt be reading this material shouldnt even be on the computer alone. a good parent would pull up a chair and help them with that school project. and besides, we all know where babies come from, dont we?

;)

Thursday, June 14, 2007, 11:35 AM

from under cabbage leaves ..........? :)

Thursday, June 14, 2007, 1:23 PM

As for the "OMG THERE ARE TEENS HERE...THE SEX WORD...AHH!" idea that came up earlier...

I'm 16 and really, I don't care if someone wants to talk about their sex lives. I've found that people who are/have been sexually active tend to be more prudish with their conversations than others. I'm very proud to list myself as someone who is NOT sexually active, but seriously, I've heard worst from my 16 year old male friends.

And, I think it SHOULD be listed as excersize. Why the heck not? =) It's good motivation =P

Thursday, June 14, 2007, 1:35 PM

What I find apalling is not the simple sex question posted, but the put downs and name calling. I agree teens know more than we give them credit for, And, yes, it is a parent's responsibility to raise their children correctly and that means to raise them to be a credit to society. They should be taught to respect others regardless of their views. Unfortunately, they find people who are supposed to be adult role models slinging insults and blatantly showing disrepect. What a pity.

Thursday, June 14, 2007, 2:32 PM

june 14th 1:23
super cute answer :)

Sunday, June 17, 2007, 2:51 AM

You people must go at it hard/fast for for quite a while!!!! Intercourse for us only lasts 1-2 minutes! Hardly any calorie burning at all....

Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 5:27 PM

5:27 BUMMER!!!

Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 6:19 PM

6:19

Yup, it is!!! Isn't average like 3-10 minutes? Seems that's what I heard on RR.

Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 6:26 PM

I didn't read the whole thread so I am sorry if I am repeating someones answer
Dr Oz was on Oprah this week and said that a person only burns 25 calories during sex.
So for whatever it's worth there you go.

Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 6:35 PM

It doesn't look as though anyone has read this in a while but just in case someone gets as interested as me in the entire forum.

Has anyone ever read Cosmopolitan magazine. They describe extremely explicitly on what you should do in bed. You don't have to be 18 to purchase that magazine. I can't believe anyone would be offended by the word sex in normal conversation in a health forum. I didn't get to read the offensive comment posted when the forum topic was first opened as it had been removed.

But I'm a 20 year old woman who comes from a house where sex was never talked about. I don't think I ever got the sex talk in fact. And I believe that it is a factor in some of the bad choices I've made. I may not be as old as some of you but I agree that people need to educate their children and stop worrying about what other adults are saying in their conversations.

This forum is not the same as someone sitting down your child and saying "hey you want to learn a little something about sex." If you think that your child/teenager is old enough to get on the internet by themselves then you are the only one to blame for what they might read. As for trying to convince other adults to do what you say because you think it is inappropriate you are fighting a losing battle. Obviously all of the adults in this forum have figured out how they want to live their lives and are going to pretty much say whatever they want.

And I would just like to point out that every single one of the girls I knew in high school that are having children weren't taught about what is right and wrong when it comes to sex. I don't have children yet, but I believe that if we aren't educating our children, than who is. Their classmates? You wouldn't believe some of the stuff that you would hear in my middle school and what little "innocent" boys and girls are capable of. Censorship is useless and crippling to our youth.

Monday, November 26, 2007, 8:52 PM

One to two minutes??!! Oh, man. I have to say I'm feeling pretty lucky right now. We usually go for about 45 minutes.

Monday, November 26, 2007, 10:00 PM

Sorry, but sex is not considered a workout unless you take breaks and do 100 jumping jacks. Most sex sessions don't last long enough to qualify as cardio.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 7:36 AM

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Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 8:20 AM

I would have to disagree to the 7:36 posting. When I'm sexually active I am a lot thinner and fit than when I'm not. Sex is definitely an exercise and gives you the emotional motivation to do more.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 10:57 AM

To 10:57 am

Sex may be motivating you to keep yourself fit and attractive for your partner, but it is not a form of exercise. It would be considered an "activity" like doing chores or running errands.

If sex was considered exercise, the fitness industry would have milked that niche already. To say sex is exercise ,to me, is being lazy and avoiding hard work.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 11:59 AM

But the fitness industry essentially is milking that niche - Carmen Electra's cardio striptease?

It's gotta be at least as much of a workout as pilates or yoga! Probably more!

Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 3:11 PM

Good Lord this is funny. Sorry some got upset or offended by some... Sorry some upset or offended some...

I'm on the "It doesn't last long enough to qualify" side currently :( but if you asked me about 100 lbs and 5 yrs ago, I'd say I work hard enough, definately.

Whatever side you are on, no matter who you are SEX is a very real thing in everyone's life, even a virgin, your parents did it, and at some point you may.

If you get enough of it , sex is sex is sex is SEX... it's really not a big deal... it's fun, but not really worth all the hushing and ear muffing.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 7:19 PM

If you put out a lot of energy during sex, then mark it down!

Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 10:27 PM

3:11

The Carmen Electra dvd is still not sex.

Sex is relaxing if it's done right. It's not like you see on the TV when the characters pull away from each other breathing heavily as if they were just being chased by a bulldog.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 10:34 PM

10:34 - sometimes it is, and it's great!

Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 10:36 PM

I agree with 10:36

I don't think I've every had relaxing sex. I'm always huffing and puffing afterwards. It's just how much effort you put into it. Or lets face it, how long your significant other can last.

Thursday, November 29, 2007, 8:45 PM

still not exercise.

Friday, November 30, 2007, 8:09 PM

In YOUR opinion.

Sunday, December 2, 2007, 12:48 PM

Yes, why not? It's physical activity. You're not sitting on the couch.

Friday, March 14, 2008, 9:29 AM

No. It really doesn't burn much.

Friday, March 14, 2008, 10:20 AM

If you're out of breath, your heart rate is elevated, and your muscles are tired afterwards, then it's exercise. I use my judgment on when to count it as exercise or not, but sometimes it definitely counts!

Friday, March 14, 2008, 12:27 PM

No, it's about equal to a yoga class - 100 calories an hour, which isn't significantly more than you use sitting at your computer typing silly things in the PT forum.

Friday, March 14, 2008, 12:37 PM

SEXERCISE!!

I love this thread! If we can talk about politics, then why not chat about sex and calorie burning!? I wonder which position burns the most!

Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 10:09 PM

back in my day (and not now, sadly), i would have to say that one session would be like an intense workout -- cardio and 'weight-bearing' exercises... i'd give it about 300 cals per session burned, average! and if i'm lucky, 500 cals...

boy, i really miss those days....

Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:30 PM

I totally count sex as a work out if its active, I find there is a difference between and crazy kinky off the wall animalistic sex session and slow sensual love making. The latter of course burning less calories. I sort of keep that part of the log to myself. But If I have a big dinner or eat lots of chocolate I try to push a bit more active sex to burn some calories before I sleep.
Also I heard an orgasm burns 100cals so even masterbating should do something!

Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 3:07 AM

Wow 11:30!
I didn't even consider the 'weight-bearing' aspects!

Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 8:19 PM

3:07 hmmm I've always pushed extra hard at the gym after a particularly greasy (but tasty) meal, but I never though to do that with sex. haha I'll have to make a conscious effort next time.

Thursday, September 4, 2008, 12:45 PM

I totally log sex...

Thursday, September 4, 2008, 4:59 PM

Sex builds muscle!

Yep! I'm lucky to have sex almost every day and most of the days 2x. I always have some sort of muscle soreness like I've had a great workout. Today it is my left gluteus muscle that is sore. Other days its my stomach muscles, my back or neck. Arms, chest...you get the picture. Earlier this week my heart rate went so high I had palpitations and had to slow down a little to catch my breath. I'm 33 and in great shape. I plan to have sex well into the future. I want to be a lady in her 80's (or older) who still get is on!!!

Thursday, September 4, 2008, 5:44 PM

PP I agree! Sex can give you sore musles!

I just got back from the doctor and while we were talking about the amount/type of exercise I get he said to add a lot of sex in as exercise. He said that sex is great exercise. :-) WOW my boyfriend is in for it now!!!!!! LOL

Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:07 PM

The amount of calories burned during intimacy depends on the intensity, time, level of positions assumed, level of arousal; but regardless of calories burned the most important thing about sex is that builds immunity and provides a good sense of well being and being loved

Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 10:35 PM

I wouldnt recommend it.....I did for awhile but I ended up counting how many "squats" i did on top versus actually enjoying myself!!!! but its pretty cool to see your progress on how much more endurance you gain....but if your breaking a sweat I think you should be able to count it....

Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 11:19 PM

FYI... I read somewhere that is how Angelina Jolie gets ready for a role....no wonder she keeps getting pregnet : )

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Thursday, December 24, 2009, 2:28 PM

ok...I am really interested in this. I would like to know. I actually record it as moderate exercise sometimes!

I also got a hip injury and heard it pop the other day, has this happened to anyone? Teenagers, this is the reality of sex sometimes!

Saturday, December 26, 2009, 9:19 PM

If you were on my team or in my group, I don't think I 'd really like to know about your sex life! Perhaps record it as "misc. exercise!"

Sunday, December 27, 2009, 7:46 PM

In response to a very old post...

"Besides, weightloss/diet are the business of adults. Yes, some teenagers and children are overweight and do need to lose, but that is something for them to take up with their doctor and parents, not a bunch of strangers on a forum. Teenagers really don't belong on PT anyhow."

I may be 21 now, but I NEVER had the support I needed or wanted for weight loss from my doctor or parent. I feel like many parents like to overlook imperfections in their children, such as weight, depression, learning disabilities, etc. I think it is unfair to say teenagers do not belong here when they were looking for the same kind of support and advice that everyone on this site seeks. Why deny them that right? Because only a doctor or parent should be concerned? The teen can't be self-sufficient enough to know there is something wrong, to understand the risks of being overweight, and to utilize what tools they have in order to find a solution?

And, 7:46, I think Misc. Exercise works perfectly.

Monday, January 4, 2010, 10:21 AM

also in responce to a very old post....

Chances are that your teens probably know more than you know or think they know about sex. The question was legit, can you count sex as burning calories....and of course you can! You burn calories cleaning house, walking the dog for them to go potty, and even just getting up to go to the potty yourself. So turning this into a big deal instead of what it was intendend of being is a waste of time and energy! So instead go burn calories w/ your teens and have a blessed day! ;)

Sunday, July 11, 2010, 2:22 PM

offensive?

you find this offensive. with sex showing up in everything from cartoons, tv shows (secret life of the american teenager) teen magazines (http://www.seventeen.com/health/sex/), movies, school. and you fine this offensive. how about this teach your kid about sex instead of trying to find things to complain about. kids are having sex at such an early age now a days. i just heard about a 12 year old having sex. you really need to think about how to tell your kids to have sex safe instead of trying to hide info about it. DON'T let a book, TV show, or mag fill your place as a parent.

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