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Mon. Jan 1, 12:00am

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Sorry to disappoint you, but I have to agree with you. This is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard. I thought it was a joke when I read the title.

Wednesday, January 29, 2014, 2:47 PM

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what howling at the moon.. shredding off my clothes wont make me skinnier.. im so disappointed lol- oh it suppose to be the phases of the moon that will make me lose weight.. and here i was thinking it was what i put in my body and how i moved my body.. silly me.. magic bullets are for guns not for health and wellness.
just my opinion .. i could be wrong, but the 207 pounds i have released says i may be doing something right..

really people own your choices stop looking for a magic bullet,, be you own magic bullet.. put in the what it takes to reach your goals


Wednesday, January 29, 2014, 3:19 PM

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I don't even get this thread.

Thursday, January 30, 2014, 9:47 AM

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So what am I commenting about here?

Friday, January 31, 2014, 2:08 PM

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It's. finding a sport you like and can have fun with can make it not boring. My children's p e classes are really great. They mix it up every day and they always say its their favorite subject.

Friday, January 31, 2014, 5:58 PM

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I think you WILL lose weight eating crap if you consistently eat less crap than you need. There is much more to be gained by eating healthful food, but if someone ONLY ate 1200 calories and they routinely burned a lot more than that over time - they WILL lose weight. More likely people who eat crappola rebound and over eat b/c they're hungry. 1200 in candy bars and crap is not a lot of food. People are not just eating 1200 in empty calories and calling it a day.

And people don't just gain muscle from the average work out. I base this on - the level of effort I see at the gym, input from people who work with athletes and talk about what it takes to truly build muscle, and personal experience (only did cardio in my 20's and didn't have ANY muscle!).

I believe the sentiment that bodies do not plateau - people and their consistency and their diligence plateau. They think they're exercising enough, but they're not as they start to exercise a little less, a little less vigorously, with less variety. They think they're watching what they eat, but they start to routinely justify why they can have just a little of this and a little of that - no longer exercising and eating how they were to lose weight. Then they claim the weigh gain is muscle or their bodies have plateaued.

I also don't believe that something is true for every single human being. I believe that these things are true for most people, but I'm sure there are exceptions out there - just not the vast majority who think so!

january 30 - I believe adults are ruining about everything out there related to kids, sports/activity, and fun!

Sunday, February 02, 2014, 2:31 PM

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I like this thread!


Friday, February 21, 2014, 8:46 AM

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Me too. No one gets how rude it is to check their cell all the time.

Friday, February 21, 2014, 9:48 AM

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Hooray on two days off cigs!!!!! and yes congress is often totally lame - don't know how they keep their jobs

Friday, March 07, 2014, 5:40 PM

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Late weighing in on the PE question:

We couldn't go outside a lot of the year for PE (weather) so we learned dancing! Contra-dancing, square dancing, a little swing... K-12 PE classes have sure come in handy later in life! I definitely am not against kids actually learning something in PE.

Who knows, your kid who didn't like learning the rules of tennis in middle school might find herself suddenly thrown into a conversation about Wimbledon with the cutest guy in her college class (It happened to me!) and be very glad of the knowledge.

Saturday, March 08, 2014, 5:30 PM

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still off the cigs?? You can do it!

Monday, March 10, 2014, 1:56 PM

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Hooray .............hoofrickinray.......four days off cigs and counting........hooray for peelout!!!!!!!!!

Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 2:48 PM

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Absolutely awesome - peel... you can do it!

Thursday, March 13, 2014, 1:50 PM

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Peel out what is your height and weight and fitness level

Sunday, March 16, 2014, 11:05 AM

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Hi Peelout, this is Jackie and someone mentioned your thread in one of my groups. Calories in - calories out does not decide weight loss. This isn't meant to spark a debate. That statement has been proven to be wrong. 100 calories of swiss chard are a completely different nutritional profile than 100 calorie snack pack and nutrients are a key component to weight loss.

Monday, March 17, 2014, 1:03 PM

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But you stated - it's simple, calories in - calories out determines weight loss. Did I miss the part where you mentioned the type of calories matter?

Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 10:18 AM

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Peel out, we wouldn't have put it there if people hadn't actually done it. Is it typical, no. If you're 130, you will not get to 118 in 3 weeks. But if you have a lot to lose? You sure can.

It's interesting that you're taking that assumption instead of just asking the question, especially since you've actually been a member of PEERtrainer as long as you have. Members barely post their successes here for whatever reason. But we have members. Meghan S. did. She won't post her before and after pictures but she did.

Hope you read the 400 page book so you can see how it works! Jackie

Monday, March 24, 2014, 11:04 AM

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One other thing peelout - we wrote the book because people wanted an actual plan. The cheat system diet, in it's current form available on PEERtrainer is a simple list without explanation about fitness, psychology, why we structured it and there are no 3 week plans. We explain it pretty in depth, but if you're looking for current members, they didn't do our actual plan. All of our success stories (Which there are tons and tons of them) followed a variation of the cheat system on its own. We are lucky to have the best partners to combine with the PEERtrainer weight loss lab. I'm not sure if you know that we've had 60,000,000 unique visitors over the last 9 years use PEERtrainer for something or other, whether it's looking up calories or using a log or reading our articles. I've personally read the emails and the issues withc actually following thorugh. No diet works unless you'll actually do it. Being obsessed with the question - what will people actually do - vs. our info is best - is what has made the Cheat System Diet so popular and actually welcomed. Everyone has learned from each other here and we married that to the science. It's been a very cool process. Jackie

Monday, March 24, 2014, 11:19 AM

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You've started one of the most interesting threads as of late! As soon as I heard about it in a group, I had to come visit. -- Jackie

Monday, March 24, 2014, 12:04 PM

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Thanks for reposting the above - I love that.

Friday, March 28, 2014, 2:09 PM

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Hey Mr. Peel- still off cigs??!!!

Friday, March 28, 2014, 2:10 PM

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I pretty much agree with you. I guess the alcoholic"gene" is debatable...I don't think you are "destined" by what your parents did/do. I do see your point about smokers vs. over eaters, however, some over eaters will actually go into their trash for food. Congrats on not smoking -I've lost a couple friends to lung cancer. You are re-training your brain to not be dependent and it will get easier over time. Interesting thread - sounds like you'd make a good politician.

Friday, March 28, 2014, 4:32 PM

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McCain is a good man but he lost his way a bit during the campaign - howabout his running mate? Carter is using his influence to help people now. As far as that website- holy sh@@- that's like teenagers encouraging people to kill themselves- wtf???

Tuesday, April 01, 2014, 2:53 PM

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Hey Peel- still not smoking? still weight lifting? you must look like a total stud muffin.

Monday, April 28, 2014, 2:01 PM

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1) give yourself break - quitting smoking is huge 2) get back to your CR's!

Thursday, May 01, 2014, 3:28 PM

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ok peel quitting smoking is huge, but i know you can stick to your crs. i went away and gained 4 pounds so today is a new month.. im back so lets smash this month!!!!


Thursday, May 01, 2014, 3:54 PM

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I totally agree with you on all points. Being a HS nurse I spend more time at my job fielding issues related to students (more often than not, girls) trying to get out of PE class. I find that PE is geared towards the student that is already active and into sports in general. I see our students required to run the mile 4 times/year and must do it in a specified time limit regardless of physical fitness or medical limitations. There is never a build up to this activity to help those who may not already be in shape and there is never a slower time accepted for those who have medical limits, such as asthma. I would like to see PE classes that allow for body image issues to be addressed. There is always the heavy set student that can't keep up or does not feel comfortable in a swim suit. What about yoga, zumba, or other fun types of PE classes? Not everyone is competitive but everyone needs to be encouraged to move regularly and find exercises that appeal to them so they will then be encouraged to make them a life style change.

Thursday, May 08, 2014, 8:44 AM

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If there weren't something to food addiction then the food companies probably wouldn't have bothered with getting their hands on the brain research that the tobacco companies used to sell more product. Perhaps people having a difficult time controlling themselves around certain foods is because they've been designed to have that exact effect! Notice not many people complain they sat down with a bag of carrots and plowed through the whole bad yet again!

Thursday, May 15, 2014, 9:27 AM

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Perhaps think of food addiction as less an addiction to ONE food like your ice cream, but to all the things they ADD to most processed food to make you crave it more and more. So it's not a singular addiction to A food, but an overall addiction to the sugar, fat, salt and other additives that are added to processed food!

Thursday, May 15, 2014, 11:54 AM

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People give up different addictions all the time. Just because they can give it up doesn't mean it's not addictive. Being addicted doest mean you are incapable of exercising self control to overcome it - they are not mutually exclusive states.

No to mention that people aren't all wired exactly the same. Just because it doesn't apply to you doesn't mean it isn't so.

Sunday, May 18, 2014, 10:52 AM

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i think addiction is used when people want to have something and dont want to be responsible for the choice of how much they have.. i myself this past week realized i was eating way too much pb.. maybe it was the sugar in the processed jars, but i was eating by the spoonfulls i had went through a med size jar in less than a week and a half..

i know pb in measured amounts is fine, but overdoing it is not good for releasing weight..soooooo i said it was too addictive..

well the truth is i wanted the pb, so i made the choice to look at it as i had no control over it that it was controlling me.. the truth is i can control it. i am not addicted. it is not a addictive substance.. i was just making a choice to eat as much as i like.

so i did a experiment to prove i could control pb..i decided to only have it three days a week.. so three days went by im like ok.. ill have my first day.. i only have 4 days left i can have pb three of those.. but i thought ok i have went three days,, i wonder if i can do 4.. so i did 4.. than im like ok 4 days wonder if i can do 5.. so i did this up until today is 9 days without pb..

so its not a addiction,, its not addictive,.. its my choice.. now i have proven i choose what i eat it doesn't control me.. pb can be eaten in moderation. if i can go without it for 9 days.. than i have full control of my choice when i eat it.

so yes i think addiction is sometimes used as a excuse to eat the way we want instead of putting limits on to what we should be eating.


Sunday, May 18, 2014, 12:23 PM

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I am a recovered addict. I was addicted to alcohol, pot and meth and cigarettes. I believe that that people that succumb to these named addictions are also more likely to have an "addictive" personality. While this may all seem mental, in fact, it is not.

SO - with that said.. my definition of addiction is that of which ANY NUMBER OF THINGS (including fats and SUGAR - which the standard american diet people don't REALIZE their bodies crave) are some substance that your body thinks they need to continue to survive. Like the smokes I used to want to hurt people over if I didn't have any... or the "next" high that I needed to keep going on pot. When pot wasn't enough, I turned to meth.

Regarding alcohol - this was my worse. I used to drink anytime any day for any reason. Sometimes every day. Not much different than smoking cigarettes (which was the hardest substance for me to quit out of ALL of them)

I believe people can be addicted to even a greater number of things outside of those which alter the chemical balance of the body; including sex and porn, shopping and serial killers. Alot of addictions are mental and in some of those instances, the individual has a psychological problem that causes them to crave some sort of deviant behavior.

Wednesday, May 28, 2014, 10:04 AM

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Food For Thought…per se, re: Addiction

Why food can be just as addicting as drugs…it's designed to affect the brain the same way drugs do and I'm guessing not many would have trouble labeling someone who can't resist the cravings of drugs as a drug addict. Not everyone who drinks becomes an alcoholic. Not everyone who eats ice cream snarfs down a gallon in one sitting.


Wednesday, June 04, 2014, 12:22 PM

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Food Addiction (sugar)

For me, one bite of ice cream leads to another. One piece of birthday cake sets me up to be craving sweets the rest of the day. I say to myself, I have to treat this as if it were an addiction, and just avoid sweets all together. I just can't be a "social eater" when it comes to sugar. I have to totally avoid it, or else I just set myself up for endless craving (which is torture). The reason I have to avoid it is I have Type 2 diabetes, so I have a strong incentive to improve my health.
Obviously we need food to survive, so we can't treat all food as addictive. But anything that makes you feel really good (like ice cream) can become an addiction.

Thursday, June 05, 2014, 12:33 AM

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I'm all over the place here, but since it's not a paper I'll skip the editing and let my haphazard rebuttal stand:

It sounds like you've melded two issues: personal choice/responsibility and addiction. Addiction is simply the physiological response/result of that substance whether it's a drug, alcohol or sugar and chemicals in food. Addiction is what makes not giving in to those cravings so dang hard. (And, again, not everyone is affected the same way by things.)

Choice and being addicted are separate issues. You can choose to not feed a food addiction, but it doesn't change the fact that your body and brain could be addicted to those foods. Being addicted to something doesn't change the fact that it is ultimately an individual's choice and responsibility to stop a behavior.

An alcoholic or drug addict ultimately has to make that choice, too, but it doesn't take away from the fact that their bodies ARE addicted to that substance. They crave it and until they decide to give it up - the feed it. There is a reason people have a hard time just saying 'no' to the craving of food - because those foods were engineered to have that effect. They're not just weak minded, weak willed people who are making excuses. Taking control of one's health and choices IS a decision, though.

I doubt you will find anyone who can't stop themselves from eating kale and carrots and swiss chard or unprocessed oatmeal, etc. It's super easy to eat reasonable amounts of those foods. These foods weren't designed to create reactions in the brain like other processed foods. And people may not realize they are truly addicted to the all the crap they put into processed foods - they just know that despite every best intention, they keep going back to the foods that make them feel good…in that moment. And when they stop eating that stuff regularly - they feel like crap!

Go onto any message board for any PT cleanse they've been doing the last few years and you will see a whole lotta bitching about how awful and hard the first few days are. We're not just grumpy cuz we can't eat our chips - we truly feel like hell until all that crap gets out of our system.

Choice and addiction - two separate issues.

Monday, June 09, 2014, 2:39 PM

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I've been on some of those teams you mentioned and, at times, life just keeps me away from the computer!

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Thursday, September 04, 2014, 2:46 AM

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I just read every single comment here. Peel, you are very interesting! I don't agree about your issue with spending money on a wedding but I agree with a lot of your comments!

Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 4:49 PM

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peel is amazing.. im grateful to call him my friend. hes like a big bro.

if you want more interaction hes on progress not perfection 2014.. hes on a work hiatus but thats where you can find him.


Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 7:13 PM

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I agree and I disagree with the above post. For me it would be: No Daylight Savings Time! I hate it that it gets light an hour after I'm at work in the winter!

Where one stands on this question of course depends on which side of your time zone you live on -- I live on the West side. Tthe folks on the East side probably all love DST.

Thursday, October 30, 2014, 6:09 AM

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**Fall. From my POV, this is about to correct itself.

Thursday, October 30, 2014, 6:10 AM

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School PE

Just read most of these interesting. I remember grammar school (I am soon 60). Had a blast playing teatherball, dodgeball and recess in general. But hated having to complete the presidential fitness tests. I just wasn't that physically fit I guess. It was embarrassing though to do it in front of everyone when you weren't good. I loved sports though. In junior high and high school we were very physical: tennis, basketball, track, field hockey, swimming. We were also tested on the rules of each sport. I hated that part but I think it is good to know how to properly play the sport to compete. I also think that recess and p.e. Are important for the kids to get the "ants in their pants" and stress out so they can concentrate better when they go back to class. I remember my gym teachers were stern and all business but I learned and got great aerobic workouts. Roblollymom

Friday, November 07, 2014, 3:50 PM

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Peelout. Did you mean you lean democrat/progressive? On a straight-line political spectrum Liberal is one step left of democrat, Socialism is the third step left ...The right is: Republican/moderate, then conservative, then fascism which is third step to right/extreme right.... right? Maybe tea party is the new name for "ultra conservative?" and fits between conservative and fascism.

By the way, I tried the werewolf diet. They're not bad with ketchup.

Thursday, December 04, 2014, 8:20 PM

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Why should I get to deduct my interest because I own a home. That means I'm subsidized by people who choose to rent."

Hmm? I've never heard anyone complaining about this before. It's supposed to be a perk for being responsible and paying (hopefully extra) towards owing a home.

I'm still not clear how you are "subsidized by people who pay rent". What? Please explain further. I'm not upset! Just curious.

Saturday, December 06, 2014, 4:21 PM

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oops! I meant owning a home not owing it: although the latter seems more true!

And now I have a question for you.. Why do people who eat meat and hunt act afraid of vegetarians: "WHOT! YUS A VEGETARIAN?? YIKES!"

After all , they hunt & eat meat. If ever there was a situation where a group had to turn to cannibalism, the vegs are going first. And has they are "grass fed" they would be a low fat meal.. So whats up with the fear?

Saturday, December 06, 2014, 4:26 PM

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Whew. I read through this whole thing. Are you a health coach? Are you fit? I only take advice from people who look good and fit.

Sunday, December 07, 2014, 4:51 PM

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Peel - loving all your political stances :) The wife cheating/sanctity of marriage thing made me laugh.

Have you ever read or listened to Freakanomics? Seems right up your alley.

I've known a few fit people who look good who have the most horrendous life styles/diets!


Sunday, December 07, 2014, 8:57 PM

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Ok. Here is one: How do I tell my friend she is fat? The answer is siimple - I don't cause she already knows. But wow. She was gorgeous 18 years ago when we first met... She got married a year and a half ago and gained about 65 pounds. Maybe 80.

This is an ex model. She probably killed her metabolism if that's possible. Her husband is still trim... So it's not a "together" thing or his bad habits.

Her dress yesterday was a nightmare.

Monday, December 08, 2014, 11:57 AM

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I think it's natural to wonder "What happened to so-and-so?" if a person goes through any sudden physical change. Illness and injury are reasonable concerns to have about a friend.

"How do I tell my friend she is fat," however, is the kind of question we expect from someone who is 13. And apparently this poster is over 18.... What is up with that?

In related news, never think you can tell by looking whether the spouse/partner is part of the problem. Bicycle racers are thin as heck, and all they eat is sugar. Having one of those around the house was no party! There were packages of pop tarts stashed in every closet, it was like there was going to be a World pop tart shortage or something.

Monday, December 08, 2014, 12:54 PM

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It may not be the spouse that's the problem, per se, just the result of taking on new habits in the first few years of marriage. I remember plating my dinner to match that of my husbands early on. Since I'm not 6 feet tall, male and 170 pounds, that habit did me no favors!

World wide Pop Tart shortage...that made me laugh.

Monday, December 08, 2014, 1:00 PM

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Yep. I stated that question like i was 13 because it's socially awful to think or ask such a question: Why did you get so fat so fast? And judging by your dress, you're in denial at the extremity of it.

It's worrisome. If she didn't get out of bed for days and days straight, should I stay silent?? If she started drinking herself to death, do I giggle at her drunkenness at parties? NO.

And as a friend, it IS my business, nay, duty, to be supportive. But how do I be supportive on such an explosive issue? Judging from Peel's tantrum-comment, (to go away) it's impossible.

She is NOT fat and happy. Don't pretend.

Monday, December 08, 2014, 2:34 PM

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Speaking of cell phones this site is horrible to use on one. I could give you guys a
quote on making it responsive.

Saturday, December 27, 2014, 5:04 PM

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Ok this should have been a comment under a thread about cell phones...way back up the page.

Saturday, December 27, 2014, 5:07 PM

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I agree with you. That said, my sister is moving when her kid is going to be enrolled in school, so that her child can attend a school that doesn't have one of the lowest ratings in the nation (Norfolk, VA). I expect that my sister will be very involved, as her kid, 4, is already into books and computers. But, the school is not just rated poorly academically; it has been investigated for sexual bullying and other abhorrent things that are turned a blind eye to... things that do not set up a good learning environment because no one is being held accountable. What can you do except find a different school. I'm sure you can blame the parents for allowing their kids to exhibit such bad behavior, but they can't be there to watch everything and at some point the administration should step in.

Monday, January 05, 2015, 4:25 PM

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Hi Peelout,
I saw your poast asking abt acupuncture and pain. Yes, I have been going to acupuncture or many years and I feel it has helped me immensely. Like any type of tx/service . . . you have to find a practitioner that is reputable and you find success with. Just like w/ OT and PT there are good and great tx go to a great one.

Monday, January 26, 2015, 12:05 AM

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Hi Peelout,
Question: Why do you think the makers of Peertrainer have not up graded their website?

Monday, January 26, 2015, 12:08 AM

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"habits are first cobwebs than cables"

Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 11:27 PM

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