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A Beauty Question

Okay, this isn't really a healht thing vs. a Beauty question...

I have very oily eyelids and cannot seem to find any makeup that has staying power..
Any suggestions?

I use Bare Minerals makeup and have been trying a MAC Peintures eyeshadow as a base... but it still creases by days end...


Thu. Feb 2, 1:23pm

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Hi. I'm definately not a make up expert, but have you tried an eye primer. I know mary kay has one (MK Signature Eye Primer).
"creates a foundation so your eye colors glide on smoothly and stay perfectly in place longer – without creasing or smudging"
I've never used it, but something like that might be worth trying!

Thursday, February 02, 2006, 1:34 PM

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Others suggested the MAC peintures as an eye primer...

It's okay, but if it's a long day, my eyes still end up being very oily and the make-up creased... I'm still trying to find something that works well for me, but yet does not irritate my eyes (very sensitive to many eye shadows because of the fillers.... Bare Minerals is pretty good at not irritating my eyes.)

Thursday, February 02, 2006, 1:36 PM

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I just started using sheer cover make up. I order from their web site.
I put their concealor on my eyelids and it seems to keep my eyeshadow looking good all day. It doesn't seem to crease by the end of the day.

Thursday, February 02, 2006, 2:04 PM

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To the sheer cover user

How do you like it? I just saw an ad for it, and it looks just like Bare Escentuals, which I've been using for years. Doesn anyone know if there is a difference? I have been quite happy with BE.

Thursday, February 02, 2006, 3:00 PM

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I like BE as well.

Don't know why, but i suffer from really oily eyelids.. everywhere else it seems to stay put... :-)

Thursday, February 02, 2006, 4:33 PM

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skip it

I'm not an anti-makeup fanatic, however, just try the minimalist approach with a wee bit of blush and some mascara. Once you've tried it awhile I bet you'l like it. I think eye make-up in particular is WAY overdone by a lot of women. I carry a little pack of blotting tissues (Crabtree and Evelyn, I think) and use it as needed. Debs

Thursday, February 02, 2006, 7:32 PM

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I only use a sheer eye makeup to brighten my eyes a bit. Other than that I do a minimalist approach to all of my makeup (unless going out for some special occasion.

I have old acne scars, so I like Bare Minerals to just cover up (with out feeling heavy or greasy)

I rarely use mascara because it almost always irritates my eyes!

Thursday, February 02, 2006, 9:07 PM

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I am currently in school to become an esthetician (skin care specialist), so I will ask my teacher tomorrow. This is only my third week in school, so I don't know enough to suggest anything, but I am curious....what is your skin care regime now? I'll also ask about makeup as well. We have a few makeup artists in the class.

Friday, February 03, 2006, 12:17 AM

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I use the Olay Regenerist line of skin care products. I learned that my oily skin was going into overtime because I used to strip all of the oils out (not reallizing that "drying" my skin was making things worse.

But, occasionally, I like to wear eye makeup and it annoys me how it ends up getting oily and creasing in the lids. If you can foud about the makeup that would be great!

Monday, February 06, 2006, 12:22 AM

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re: skip it

I have to agree. My husband and my best friend prefer me w/out makeup. So I did go w/out for the longest time. Now, I put on concealer (for my bags and few blemishes), powder and mascara, sometimes a little eyeshadow. I don't do this everyday, just when I want. This saves time and money.

Monday, February 06, 2006, 9:28 AM

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my friend had oily eyelids too. FOr some strange reason, i found it very cool. I used to think she had on some kind of glossy eye make up. as for what make up to use for your condition, i have no clue. sorry.

Tuesday, February 07, 2006, 6:14 PM

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I have the same problem and I'm 44. Still have very oily skin in the face.

Wednesday, February 08, 2006, 4:31 AM

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Well, I love the Olay Regenerist line, it seems to have balanced out my oily skin...

one thing--most people overly dry their oily skin by using a very drying cleanser. The effect this has is to make the oil glands go overtime because they think that the skin is not oily enough.

Try switching to a cream-based cleanser, and you will notice that your skin will start to clear up and to produce less oil!! I used to use the Clean & Clear cream cleansers, but now I use only the Olay regenerist cleansers. Either way, I try not to over-wash my skin too many times a day (I used to wash it 2 or 3 times a day). The oil has started to even out... I do lightly dab at my skin throughout the day using a clean tissue-- to blot the oils, but I rarely break out any more since I've changed the way I clean my face!

Wednesday, February 08, 2006, 12:34 PM

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Cream cleansers are a disiaster for my oily skin - just made it worse. Great if it works for you but not for everyone.

Wednesday, February 08, 2006, 6:07 PM

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are you using a cream cleanser that includes some salicylic acid or benzyl peroxide? They can help to tame the oiliness. Do NOT use the kind that you wipe off, but the kind that you have to wash off... (Note, do not use benzyl peroxide cleansers with a dark colored towel-- it will tend to bleach the color out.) Your face should NOT feel greasy or tight once you've finished washing or that means that you've left too much oils or stripped too much off...

The Olay Regenerist is pretty good--it cleans without stripping the oils off. Leaves my skin nice and soft, but not tight feeling like the drying kinds of soaps and cleansers. It also has a mild glycolic acid that gives the skin a "mni-peel" effect. :-)

Wednesday, February 08, 2006, 9:24 PM

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What if you don't have very dark eyebrows? I've tried the brow color, but feel like they look too "over-done". I have dark brown to black hair and the dark brow color makes me feel like a drag queen...

Wednesday, February 08, 2006, 9:26 PM

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To poster #17 - No, I don't think this would be effective. Not about to try the Olay products, sure you don't work for them? Check out Paula's Choice, the only thing that has helped me (no I have not connection with the company, just a fan of the products). Created by Paula Begoen, who wrote Don't Go to the Cosmetic Counter Withou Me and many other great books exposing the "beauty" industry for all of their phony claims.

Thursday, February 09, 2006, 7:57 AM

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No, I don't work for them at all. I just really like their products.

I have had adult acne for years--big blemishes on my cheeks and saw something on my evening news about the Regenerist-- Thought I'd give it a try and it really helped my skin even out its tone. The newscaster mentioned that the active ingredient to look for is the "pentapeptides", and that whether or not you pay $100 a bottle or $18, that is what helps to deminish fine lines, and to even out the skin tone.

Before that I had tried the Clean & Clear line of cleansers (the creamy one, and the one with salicylic acid), both which started helping to even out my oiliness. I was resistant at first because all of my life, I've been using things like Clinique soap (which REALLY dries out the skin), Alpha Hydrox, (which was okay, but didn't really help much), Neutrogena products, etc....It took me a while to realize that the cream cleansers were not making my face oil, but were actually preventing them from getting too dry.

I emphasize that the cleansers I use are OIL FREE cream cleansers-- I cannot use anything with oil, because that clogs my pores and makes me break out even worse! I also do not use toners, because they strip my skin and again, that causes the acne and blemishes to flare up.

I had been to dermatologists when I was younger, but usually, they just put me on tetracycline (which causes terrible yeast infections), and benzyl peroxide or Retin-A.... All of which dry out my skin to the point of flakiness-- yes, the acne was helped, but then again, as soon as I stopped using these products, I'd break out again. Now-a-days, I only use a topical prescription med on the OCCASIONAL blemish--since my oil glands are no longer on hyper drive (i.e. Instead of washing my face 4 times a day, I only need to wash in the morning and night now), the medication helps to prevent those pimples from becoming giant blemishes...

Over the years, I kept reading magazines about what to do for the t-Zone and oily faces, when one day, I found an article about how over-drying the skin causes the oil glands to go crazy and to overdrive and then the breakouts occur.

Last summer, as I was preparing for the 3-Day Breast Cancer Walk, I found the Olay Regenerist and Bare Minerals to be a blessing! No break-outs, my skin cleared up, AND the oiliness went away. (I was still using Clean & Clear Cleanser). Now, my skin is very clear--the makeup is light and does not have any binders (like waxes or oils) and that also helps my skin (previously, I only would use Neutrogena make-up, even that feels heavy on my skin now that I've switched to the Bare Minerals makeup).

I truly did not think that the regenerist would work (I am a big skeptic when it comes to "beauty products"),... so I started out by using only 1 of the products (the daily moisturizer)... then found that it worked and eventually bought the whole line.

The thing is this-- I'm 38 and don't want to look old (still get carded at the store if I buy beer and even, occasionally, lottery tickets.) I passed on the secret to my sister, mom and one of my best friends and we are all hooked. It truly works and is far less expensive than the cosmetic lines from the beauty counter. I can get some of the Regenerist products at my local Sam's Club (the eye cream and the moisturizer) for even less than what I pay for the products at Target (the best price I've found, unless they are on sale)

I've never seen "Paula's Choice" in the stores before and am curious as to what kinds of active ingredients they have. Obviously, the woman who wrote the book stands to profit from her line of products as well....

Anyways, either way, I'm glad that I finally found something that works for me, and it's good that you've found something that works for you as well.
Each person's skin is unique--my friend can use the day moisturizer from Olay, but she finds the night cream to be too creamy for her-- it is all a matter of personal preference and fine-tuning to something that works for you.

I even have a friend who literally uses soap (!!) and water (i.e. BAR SOAP)... her skin is fantastic, so who am I to tell her to try something else? :-) (Sure wish that was the case with me!)

Even if you aren't helped out by my experience, I hope that someone else may find my information helpful.

Thursday, February 09, 2006, 11:57 AM

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I don't wear eyeshadow generally b/c I find it just comes off by the end of the day, or 5 minutes into the day, not really sure. I don't think I have oily eyelids, but it just doesn't stay, even when I use a "base." I've found two alternatives that I like, though.

1) lining my eyes with a liquid eyeliner, right above the upper lash line and right below the lower lash line. I think it gives me a more "finished" look. You have to get the line really thin though, especially on the bottom, or it just makes your eyes look small. Sometimes I also wear mascara; sometimes not.

2) I got one of the "pencil" eyeshadows - not really a cream shadow, but looks more like an eye pencil. But it's a shadow. Kind of like a colored pencil, but softer. I bought it at Walgreens, but can't remember what brand. Maybe $6. It seems to stay put all day, except if I rub my eyes by accident.

I have no idea if either of these will work for you, but if they do, great!

Thursday, February 09, 2006, 5:15 PM

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Thanks I found something new at Sephora in the Bare Minerals brand-- there is this liquid that you use with their powder shadows to make a "liquid liner". It's waterproof and smudge proof (or so they say) I have just started trying it out for now to see how well it works. I'm using the regular shadow color to "line" the tops of my lids. Don't know if this will look weird, so we'll see!! :-)

Someone once mentioned something called "She-Laq" or something like that, but it sounded kind of weird--I think you brush it on top of your shadow? Sounded like it might make the shadow look funny, so I haven't tried it...

Thursday, February 09, 2006, 5:53 PM

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I'm a minimalist too...

I actually asked a gorgeous, made-up salesgirl in Nordstrom's cosmetics department what she thought were the basics that I needed and she told me:
- mascara
- blush
- lip gloss

So, I've gone from no makeup to those 3 and I look a heck of a lot better!!!!! I also have oily eyelids, and tried many things, but just gave up...

Thursday, February 09, 2006, 5:57 PM

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