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This Does Not Make Sense........

Some people will start a thread of 'oh no I want to eat" or "the cake in the lunchroom is calling my name" condemning their own behaviour or possible behaviour looking for the accolades from the pt audience for being a good dieter, and yet another person who genuinely posts that they are trying to crack the code on fat burning heart rate, or calories required during the day to lose weight gets smacked down.

So if I am not mistaken, it is alright to whine to the pt community about how pathetic you are for wanting a fudge brownie, and be patted on the back and offered support, but whatever you do .... do not ask a legitimate exercise / calorie / diet question that can make all the difference in how you manage your weight loss, and achieve any level of success.

That is whacked !!!!!!

Fri. Feb 8, 5:43pm

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interesting... I'll admit, I find there's MUCH too much whining and pity parties here, and people masquerading "support" as a pity party.

There are some who ask "legitimate" questions and are shot down, but some of them really should learn to use google first. That kinda gets on my nerves when they're too lazy to actually put any effort into finding an answer first.

Friday, February 08, 2008, 6:18 PM

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Oh i'm soo sorry that your itty bitty brain cells could not comprehend a technical question like hr.... hr stands for "heart rate" .... now we can say it together heeeaaaarrrrtttt raaaatttteeee.

ohh so why don't you crawl into a wittle coner and suck you thumb, ohh you might have to remove that huge big a$$ brownie from your huge big a$$ mouth.

Friday, February 08, 2008, 6:48 PM

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Wow. Some people are in a bad mood today! Yikes! Maybe you should focus on the positive stuff in life. Like big ass brownies...yumm!

Friday, February 08, 2008, 7:34 PM

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Ok I understand the whining bit...but my veiw point is well that is reality for most people and so many do not have the support in there daily lives and rely on this internet support system, that is what pt is for along w/ your idea of gathering health info. (Al little something for everyone) Even your thread has brought such mean repsonses, I think a better ? is why do people take the time to respond to them at all ? Read em and move on if not interested ...
Now my ? to OP when did the true legitimate ?s not get answered? Like heart rates ect..?

Friday, February 08, 2008, 10:10 PM

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This type of stuff is why I think I am done with PT

Friday, February 08, 2008, 10:39 PM

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I never took the lounge to exist for pity parties and that type of "support." I've never however been the kind to do any of the "help my will power" or "tell me how good I did" posting because I do think it's pathetic.

You want that kind of coddling and hollow praise, find it in your group. The lounge was a place for discussions and info gathering, because hey- not everyone in your group may be doing your diet or you need advice on swimming and no one in your group swims.

Even the site says support from "small online groups and teams" and the lounge is "see what people are talking about." You want your little pity party whine session get a shrink or a group, but spare the rest of us.

Friday, February 08, 2008, 11:52 PM

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People are here for support & if you can't give them support then leave the thread, you don't have to say anything negative. Be positive to help them through their hard time, or to you a stupid question. Didn't anyone ever tell you a question isn't stupid, if they knew the answer they wouldn't be asking. I'm sure you didn't just wake up one day & knew hr meant heart rate...because in school the abbreviation mean HOUR.

I am sure you came to PT for support and to get answers to your questions, so be kind and do the same for others, otherwise seriously just don't type anything at all to the OP.

Saturday, February 09, 2008, 9:18 AM

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Yeah, we should all be perfect little Pollyannas. That gets us so far in life.

Saturday, February 09, 2008, 11:25 AM

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I can't believe how inconsiderate some ppl are in here. I joined this site for support and to get info. Some of us just don't know things when it comes to trying to lose weight. So why not be considerate and somewhat nice instead of so harsh? If you are too lazy to answer a simple question then say nothing. Don't call the person an idiot or worse. And people wonder why people are so fat. One can't even join an online support group without being ridiculed. Wow, how sad :(

Saturday, February 09, 2008, 11:52 AM

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Too lazy to answer a simple question? Some of the OPs are too lazy and stupid to look for the answer in obvious places.

I personally don't mind the people who post on the verge of bingeing. They're in a very vulnerable position and who else do they have to talk them down? I used to be the desperate phone call for a friend who was quitting cigarettes, it's no different except most people don't get that food has the same addictive pull at times.

The other "yay me" stuff is also sad...they have no one else to share their successes with, either because they're being secretive about dieting or they don't live in a supportive environment.

However, there are other kinds of laughably vain and empty-headed posters that I do enjoy slamming.

Saturday, February 09, 2008, 12:03 PM

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So sorry to hear that you like to let people down. Your life must be empty 12:03

Saturday, February 09, 2008, 12:05 PM

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11:25 I'm not saying be perfect, I'm saying don't be an ass. You can give advice w/out being a jerk about it the whole time, or are you just some type of bully that comes here to make others feel worse?? How have you done on your weightloss? Have you needed a trainer, diet coach, someone to talk to, because you are here for something? To bash others?? Just be nice thats all, NO ONE IS PERFECT. You should be giving people credit for wanting to learn new things & wanting help to lose weight.

Saturday, February 09, 2008, 12:05 PM

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No, I just think people who obsess over having some anatomical feature from a magazine that doesn't exist in nature, such as a six-pack on a woman (steroids, questionable supplementation and lipo make this possible but not natural), are frivolous little twits undeserving of genuine support. They need a reality check. I do not feel the least big bad about "letting down" someone who can't see through the obvious BS in the fitness/media.

Not every idea deserves support. There are budding anorexics and bulimics on here looking to justify their behavior. There are total nutjobs on here who want a bunch of strangers to tell them they're normal. If you want perpetual niceness, join one of the christian groups and stay out of the forum.

Saturday, February 09, 2008, 1:25 PM

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1:25- I'll agree and applaud you up until the Christian part. I was in a Christian group where we pushed and challenged each other instead of coddled each other and made excuses. I don't think religion affects the wimpiness of groups.

Saturday, February 09, 2008, 2:57 PM

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Who cares? Read the threads you like. You're kind of generalizing, OP.

Once I posted a thread asking questions about "hot yoga" and it turned into a pathetic fight about body odour!

Life is so tough sometimes, you gotta let things roll off your back.

Saturday, February 09, 2008, 3:07 PM

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I'm sorry you have had this bad experience here... I don't know if mine has been the exception, but my interaction until I read the comments here have been all positive. To the one who feels like giving up because of people's comments... Please don't give up. You are worth it. Maybe try a different group that will help build you up rather than tear you down. You can do it!

Saturday, February 09, 2008, 3:38 PM

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Saturday, February 09, 2008, 4:07 PM

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What a useless thread!

What a waste!

Sunday, February 10, 2008, 12:49 AM

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To op & those sympathetic to op

What really does not make sense is - why are you reading threads that are people asking for sympathy or support if they bother you? It isn't mandatory. You are under no obligation to read any thread in peer trainer if you don't want to. There are three obvious possible answers 1 you have a very limited life and peer trainer threads are overly important to you 2 you enjoy being irritated 3 you are looking for reasons to give up on peer trainer or rag on peer trainer & other people.
Who is really pitiful here? The people who are willing to ask for help or the people who are sneering at them rather than pressing the back button & moving on?

Sunday, February 10, 2008, 12:47 PM

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uh PP, perhaps you haven't noticed that not every pity party thread has as it's tite "Whine session in progress." I don't personally respond in those pity party threads. But, a) I will discover them by clicking on a thread without knowing it's going to be a pity party and b) I have a decent enough memory to remember what thread it was and still see 26 responses.

And people asking for a pity party AREN'T asking for help. People asking for affirmation, aren't asking for help. They just want someone to make them feel happy about right where they are and not pressure them to change. And no matter what, staying stagnant, and wanting others to "support" your stagnancy is pathetic.

Sunday, February 10, 2008, 1:41 PM

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I think that what this thread has discovered is that everyone views PEERtrainer differently and their utilization so follows.

Can this thread please die now? It's only use is to cause people to argue and drag other's spirits down.

Sunday, February 10, 2008, 1:52 PM

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If you're done with PT try Sparkpeople . It's another terriifc site, i use both! SP gives you the ability to track food but it counts your calories, fat, fiber, carbs, fitness, goals, weight tracker etc as well. You can also SEE who you're talking to as most people have what is called a Spark Page, and if you want to speak with one person you can use Spark mail! You also get "points" for all kinds of things. If you do decide to join please say DYNAHD referred you.
Not to take anything away from PT, I think this site is great as well but I do find the people on SP to be less hostile, you would rarely see something like that on there.

Sunday, February 10, 2008, 8:38 PM

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I'd love to help you, but I'm a christian with a brownie stuck in my big mouth. If it makes you feel any better, I do pity you though.

Monday, February 11, 2008, 8:36 AM

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i agree--too many poor me and pity parties. making someone feel better about their binge eating isn't offering support--it's enabling and confirming they shouldn't feel bad about it. For myself, and this doesn't work for everyone, if I hold myself accountable and kick my own ass, then i'm less likely to binge again.

Monday, February 11, 2008, 9:19 AM

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Lol, it is actually funny how the site was designed to help a person hold themselves accountable, and help others be accountable, but really, the support most seem to be looking for is more of a "there there, it's ok" attitude.

And while I certainly don't take the fatalistic approach of "I binged, it's all over, I'm a failure", so few people seem to be of the "suck it up, get over it, and don't do it again" approach, which seems to be the healthiest approach of all (both mentally and physically)

Monday, February 11, 2008, 4:54 PM

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It seems like an awful lot of people, in real life as well as on this site, are looking for any excuse to screw up their diets, be it a social event or a minor emotional upheaval. They rather loudly embrace the idea that "it's okay to mess up as long as I get right back on track" to the point where they're overindulging and restarting every other day and telling themselves it's normal and okay. Fine - as long as you don't start calling it a plateau or whining about how you didn't lose any weight this week.

Monday, February 11, 2008, 5:19 PM

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This is great! Can we get back to the name calling!

Monday, February 11, 2008, 5:35 PM

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That does it!

I am off to Sparkpeople or maybe I will just do my own thing . . . Have fun in your vengeful little world!!

Monday, February 11, 2008, 6:56 PM

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PP is perfect example of those who take any kind of disagreement with their position, and turn to namecalling. This thread hasn't been "vengeful" at all.

Personally, I refuse to cater to emotionally vulnerable people as I think being an enabler isn't actually helpful.

Monday, February 11, 2008, 7:00 PM

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So I checked it out. I might as well go get an issue of Vogue.

Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 12:35 PM

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Maybe you SHOULD go get an issue of vogue just so you can see fake people! Why the heck do you say that? I'm not the previous poster but I too belong to both sites and both are great. As a matter of fact there are things I like BETTER about Spark people. So judgemental, what the heck is your problem?!?!

Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 3:32 PM

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Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 7:19 PM

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You are not a problem you are a troll. The fact that I went to Spark People and saw pictures of people with all of their personal business hanging out looking like strippers is the problem. Now there may be things you like better but hey we can't all be you.

Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 4:42 PM

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Thank GOD!

Who are you to ask someone 'what the heck is your problem' I agree with the PP I found SP to be full of boob jobs and booty cracks too. I won't go back. If you like that sight so much go there and leave us alone!

Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 4:51 PM

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You can't possibly be the person who said "Have fun in your vengeful little world" Then wants to know what 12:35's "problem" is? If you are the kind of person on the Spark People no wonder they don't want to go there.
Good way to represent! We are warned.

Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 5:09 PM

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Everyone is so bitchy and you sound like you're jealous. Maybe you're just hungry so go eat a cake and shut the hell up. Bunch of negative jerks on this site, I know I for one am getting off this site and going to find another, whether it be spark people or another. At least hopefully there will be a site full of support and not this rotten crap you guys dish out!

Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 7:39 PM

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Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 8:04 PM

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You like that word "troll" don't you? I've seen it in other threads/posts of yours. Try getting out of the 80's, maybe go back to school and build your vocabulary. Oh yeah, you're too busy buidling your big fat butt and not happy with you or this world, huh? Just because the poster suggests another site doesn't mean they want your opinion on it or put any weight (oh sorry, sensitive word for you) into your opinion. Some people try to be helpful and all some others on this site do is try to kick them down. More than likely out of your insecure feelings about yourself. I do really feel badly for you and will pray for you.

Thursday, February 14, 2008, 8:44 AM

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Like I said before, if you are what they have on those other sites they can keep you! Please if the bridge fits, climb under it.

Thursday, February 14, 2008, 9:52 AM

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Bye, why are you still here? Need someone to talk too? Nobody wants to hang out with you face to face? I can't see why, since you are so pleasant.

Thursday, February 14, 2008, 9:56 AM

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Hey 8:44

Who are you praying too? After all of that mean spirited stuff you typed, you claim to be what? A Christian? Pray for yourself.

Thursday, February 14, 2008, 10:16 AM

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Nothing like a good cat fight to read with your coffee! All these posters have to be women. Its like I walked into the break room. So fickel...

7:39... You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

I really think they should include the signature of the poster. Seriously doubt you gals would post the negative things you do if it had a name stuck to it.

Thursday, February 14, 2008, 10:59 AM

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I agree! It is so much fun! I check in at work to see who said what and I even sometimes check in from home. Sometimes these little snits are just too funny!

Thursday, February 14, 2008, 11:43 AM

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